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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Bingo! It will ultimately fail as an experiment owing to greed and selfishness. Communes have experimented with the concept, but they always fall apart with intense animosity.
    Respond to Milton. Is there some society that doesn't run on greed? And what great accomplishments in human history have come out of government institutions?

    Or was that capitalism, and also greed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    Why do you think libertarians are "me-first me-only assholes"?

    Because they think that government is not the answer to all of society's woes?

    I didn't get that from DD's post. There will always be an element in a community that will ultimately ruin the ideology. When communes form, everyone is on board with the ideology, but as generations pass through, attitudes change and human selfishness and greed emerge to ruin the experiment. I was reading about a prominent anarchist commune in Peru that fell apart for these very reasons, and we are all aware of the failure of the commune experiments of the '60's and '70's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    You think greed and selfishness is exclusively a bad thing?
    No, it is not that dualistic, nor simplistic. I'm actually a capitalist. Hehe

    How do you think Capitalism works. People work to better themselves through mutually beneficial agreements.
    No shit, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    Respond to Milton.
    Fuck your video. Please have the courtesy to tell me and not make me watch a video.

    Is there some society that doesn't run on greed?
    Did I suggest or imply there was? No.

    And what great accomplishments in human history have come out of government institutions?
    The Apollo Space Programme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Fuck your video. Please have the courtesy to tell me and not make me watch a video.
    "There is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people, that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system."

    That is what libertarians understand and that is all they seek to foster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    "There is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people, that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system."

    That is what libertarians understand and that is all they seek to foster.
    Utilitarianism would disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    "There is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people, that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system."

    That is what libertarians understand and that is all they seek to foster.
    And while that is a little idealistic and euphemistic, we know the experiments failed and why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    The Apollo Space Programme.
    And what allowed the government to afford such an endeavor?

    Also, SpaceX is a private company and will revolutionize space travel. It's not something the government has an exclusive right over or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    And what allowed the government to afford such an endeavor?
    Taxation and sponsorships

    Also, SpaceX is a private company and will revolutionize space travel. It's not something the government has an exclusive right over or anything.
    Irrelevant to your question, and I never claimed any form of exclusivity. You asked for a valid example and I gave you one of the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    And while that is a little idealistic, we know the experiments failed and why.
    The experiments did not fail. The free enterprise system has drastically improved the standard of living for billions of people.

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