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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Of course other nations and people have suffered as modern Israelis suffer. I am no fan of ranking historical pain, and I am not suggesting Israel has the greatest claim on public sympathy. There is no famine in Israel, for example, and an excellent case could be made that as a nation, Somalia is suffering the most today.

    None of which is the point of this thread. I still feel strongly that attacks on Israel and Jews is a coordinated media campaign to delegitimize that nation among American liberals.
    What I find so amazing is the countries surrounding Israel like Jordan and Egypt are huge compared to Israel. Israel is a dot on the map. They took barren desert and turned it into a land of milk and honey and I am sure they are resented for that. People will not be happy until Israel is destroyed
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    Quote Originally Posted by font View Post
    If he is an educated person he cannot be a victim of a campaign. In fact he is a part of such campaign.
    He is just a pathetic anti-Semite.
    It's the same mentality as I have said before , like the bigots who called Martin Luther King a racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Of course other nations and people have suffered as modern Israelis suffer. I am no fan of ranking historical pain, and I am not suggesting Israel has the greatest claim on public sympathy. There is no famine in Israel, for example, and an excellent case could be made that as a nation, Somalia is suffering the most today.

    None of which is the point of this thread. I still feel strongly that attacks on Israel and Jews is a coordinated media campaign to delegitimize that nation among American liberals.
    Its not a coordinated media campaign.

    Its the Information Age.

    Cell phones. Internet. Blogs.

    The world cannot not hide things anymore.

    You're saying apartheid is ok because the masters are being as fair as possible to the serfs.

    A just state isnt when the master race "allows" the lesser race have freedoms. A just state is when the bosses are from all groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by font View Post
    If he is an educated person he cannot be a victim of a campaign. In fact he is a part of such campaign.
    He is just a pathetic anti-Semite.
    I don't agree. It's possible to mislead an educated person. If you survey articles in HuffPo, Salon, Slate, etc. on Israel and they are uniformly negative and, what's worse, they appeal to the reader's humanity to encourage antagonism against Israel to "support the underdog".

    My feeling is, to make informed choices about the affairs of that nation, a person would need to read extensively and from reliable sources, starting with major Israeli newspapers.

    It's not that there's no room to disagree with Netenyahu's strategies. It's that the disagreements should be fact-based and support Israel's right to self-defense as a fundamental principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Its not a coordinated media campaign.

    Its the Information Age.

    Cell phones. Internet. Blogs.

    The world cannot not hide things anymore.

    You're saying apartheid is ok because the masters are being as fair as possible to the serfs.

    A just state isnt when the master race "allows" the lesser race have freedoms. A just state is when the bosses are from all groups.
    There is no position in Israeli government (except possibly the PM) that cannot be held by a non-Jew. They are police officers, judges, legislators, etc. The "segregation" refers mainly to restricted physical movement inside the state, which is certainly not laudable.

    But what better way to assure public safety exists?

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    By the way ^ every country has these issues. I'm only discussing it about Israel because this thread is about Isreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    It's the same mentality as I have said before , like the bigots who called Martin Luther King a racist
    Certainly, it is coordinated and recycles some hateful old lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    By the way ^ every country has these issues. I'm only discussing it about Israel because this thread is about Isreal.
    Well, yes and no. Terror attacks on any Western nation are not usually designed to end that nation by killing all its native citizens.

    Israel has some unique challenges to its security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    What I find so amazing is the countries surrounding Israel like Jordan and Egypt are huge compared to Israel. Israel is a dot on the map. They took barren desert and turned it into a land of milk and honey and I am sure they are resented for that. People will not be happy until Israel is destroyed
    I can't understand the mentality of Arab extremists that will sacrifice anything to "push Israel into the sea".
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    Part of the problem is that many expect Israel to behave like a Western country. This is a mistake. Israel is a Middle-Eastern country. It has adopted more aspects of Western culture than most other Middle Eastern nations, but if you want to compare Israel to other nations, be fair about it. Compare it to other Middle Eastern nations.

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