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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Why are we so demanding of Israel as to the rules of engagement?
    ... and not at all as to Palestinian rules of engagement (which they do not really have)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Well, yes and no. Terror attacks on any Western nation are not usually designed to end that nation by killing all its native citizens.

    Israel has some unique challenges to its security.
    No Palestinian group, whether Hamas or anyone else, has the actual MEANS, the ability, to "end" Israel, even if they may want to. It's all just empty rhetoric

    Meanwhile, Israel has just attacked Syria, yet again: Israeli Airstrikes Turn Syria Into a Proxy War With Iran | Time.com

    And they get to get away with that, they get away with anything they ever do, in the West, because they are Jews, and criticizing them is "antisemitism" and there is AIPAC and such lobbying their interests in Washington; and in Russia, because Jewish double citizen (Russian/Israeli) oligarchs negotiate with Putin on their behalf. Must be nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    I don't understand the mentality (same as I can't understand the idiotic Trump supporters and defenders) but I get it. Poverty, abuse of power, years of brainwashing to hate Israel, anger at Israel and west for bombings that destroyed their homes, killed friends or family or maimed them, and lots of western countries exploiting the people of these countries and supporting ruthless dictators when it suits them, and the people are the ones feeling the wrath
    Every long-running feud uses the injuries of the past to inspire hatred in the young. The Irish fought this way for 800 years.

    But peace in the Middle East will occur only when the leaders of Arab nations turn their attention to the welfare of their own citizens. When hatred is no longer the fastest, most secure path to power. When Arab nations embrace the 21st century.

    None of which are choices Israel can control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Part of the problem is that many expect Israel to behave like a Western country. This is a mistake. Israel is a Middle-Eastern country. It has adopted more aspects of Western culture than most other Middle Eastern nations, but if you want to compare Israel to other nations, be fair about it. Compare it to other Middle Eastern nations.
    Israelis are Westerners living in a Western Country. Same as Australia. If you want to compare Australia to Vanuatu to say look how great Australia is, then be ready to be called on such BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Meanwhile, Israel has just attacked Syria, yet again: Israeli Airstrikes Turn Syria Into a Proxy War With Iran | Time.com
    You should thank Israel for bombing terrorists.
    And they get to get away with that, they get away with anything they ever do, in the West, because they are Jews
    Or may be because their enemies are immoral, stupid and coward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Part of the problem is that many expect Israel to behave like a Western country. This is a mistake. Israel is a Middle-Eastern country. It has adopted more aspects of Western culture than most other Middle Eastern nations, but if you want to compare Israel to other nations, be fair about it. Compare it to other Middle Eastern nations.
    lol No, man. My now former barberess back in Vancouver, who came to Israel in early 90s from Crimea and, a decade later, moved to Canada, is not "Middle-Eastern". In fact, she would probably swear at you, in English, Russian, AND Hebrew, if you started comparing her to Arabs. You should have heard how she talked about them, they are not even human beings to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    No Palestinian group, whether Hamas or anyone else, has the actual MEANS, the ability, to "end" Israel, even if they may want to. It's all just empty rhetoric
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    Not entirely true. There are Palestinian Arabs living within Israel. They have a higher birthrate than Israeli Jews. In the long run, they will outnumber Israeli Jews, forcing the Jewish state to either hand itself off to the majority (resulting in the end of Israel), or move further away from Western-style democratic systems of government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    lol No, man. My now former barberess back in Vancouver, who came to Israel in early 90s from Crimea and, a decade later, moved to Canada, is not "Middle-Eastern". In fact, she would probably swear at you, in English, Russian, AND Hebrew, if you started comparing her to Arabs. You should have heard how she talked about them, they are not even human beings to her.
    I'm not talking about individuals; I'm talking about nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by font View Post
    You should thank Israel for bombing terrorists.

    Or may be because their enemies are immoral, stupid and coward.
    You are bombing the ones who are FIGHTING the terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Of course I hold Isreal to a higher standard than a shit hole despot theocracy or dictatorship. Seriously you think people are not critical of middle eastern dictatorships?

    Seriously?

    You seriously think that people concerned with human rights are not critical of middle eastern dictatorships?
    They are aware but go after Israel. As someone said before, compare Israel to the other Middle Eastern countries and you will see how progressive they are and how much better they treat their citizens
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