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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Not entirely true. There are Palestinian Arabs living within Israel. They have a higher birthrate than Israeli Jews. In the long run, they will outnumber Israeli Jews, forcing the Jewish state to either hand itself off to the majority (resulting in the end of Israel), or move further away from Western-style democratic systems of government.
    Israel probably will end up like old South Africa eventually, if it ain't there yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    The irrationality to protect Israel is so absurd. They are guilty of atrocities. They have killed so many more Palestinian people than Palestinian terrorists have killed Israelis.

    Same with the US, I expect them to be better, and just bombing and killing innocent people caught in the middle to justify getting a bad guy is complete BS. and to hide behind "security" is another BS argument.

    They act just as much as bullies and thugs at times as those nasty regimes



    Who are you speaking about? Liberals tend to be more the ones that think Israel is wrong at times, just like liberals are the ones that think our bombings of innocent people in every country is also horrendous. It's right wingers that more often justify US bombings as "oh well, its necessary" and defend Israel killing so many
    Tell me about all these "innocents" Israelis kill.....you mean like when they blow up buses? Or you mean like when they blow up markets? Oh wait a minute that's not israel...and the nerve of them to retaliate
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    There will be peace in the Middle east when people there stop thinking that their tribe has the right to commit any atrocity imaginable because it's for the defense of the tribe.

    Unfortunately that means security and law and order must come first. Which is impossible so long as the peace process is being successfully sabatoged by individuals who profit from the status quo. And all they have to do to be successful in sabotaging the peace process is to kill someone, or bulldoze their home, or throw a rock- and then the other side retaliates against totally random people who had nothing to do with it - et voila... back to normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Tell me about all these "innocents" Israelis kill.....you mean like when they blow up buses? Or you mean like when they blow up markets? Oh wait a minute that's not israel...and the nerve of them to retaliate
    Why was there all the moaning and whining when Russia bombed Aleppo, but there never is, when Israel bombs Gaza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Israelis are Westerners living in a Western Country. Same as Australia. If you want to compare Australia to Vanuatu to say look how great Australia is, then be ready to be called on such BS.
    That may have been true in the 1940s but Israelis have lived in the Middle East for generations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    That may have been true in the 1940s but Israelis have lived in the Middle East for generations
    Russians have lived in Crimea since at least the era of Catherine the Great. But, in your government's opinion, this does not, apparently, entitle them to decide which country their region will be a part of lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Not entirely true. There are Palestinian Arabs living within Israel. They have a higher birthrate than Israeli Jews. In the long run, they will outnumber Israeli Jews, forcing the Jewish state to either hand itself off to the majority (resulting in the end of Israel), or move further away from Western-style democratic systems of government.
    The same is true with most other Western nations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    That may have been true in the 1940s but Israelis have lived in the Middle East for generations
    Same as Australians...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    The irrationality to protect Israel is so absurd. They are guilty of atrocities. They have killed so many more Palestinian people than Palestinian terrorists have killed Israelis.

    Same with the US, I expect them to be better, and just bombing and killing innocent people caught in the middle to justify getting a bad guy is complete BS. and to hide behind "security" is another BS argument.

    They act just as much as bullies and thugs at times as those nasty regimes



    Who are you speaking about? Liberals tend to be more the ones that think Israel is wrong at times, just like liberals are the ones that think our bombings of innocent people in every country is also horrendous. It's right wingers that more often justify US bombings as "oh well, its necessary" and defend Israel killing so many
    This is fairly recent. In my college years, it would have been unthinkable for any decent person, liberal or conservative, to be critical of Israel. The 1967 war and 1972 Munich Olympic attacks were not ancient history to us.

    IDK whether I agree that more "Palestians" than Israelis have been killed. As far as I know, there is no sustained terror campaign conducted by Israeli extremists against Arabs living anywhere.

    If you are including people killed in war, I don't agree that Israel has been the aggressor. Certainly not in any way as much as the U.S. has been, all around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    They are aware but go after Israel. As someone said before, compare Israel to the other Middle Eastern countries and you will see how progressive they are and how much better they treat their citizens
    Just to make it easier, here's a list of all nations generally considered to be "Middle Eastern." If anyone wants to compare Israel to other countries, take your pick:

    *Armenia
    *Bahrain
    *Egypt
    *Iran
    *Iraq
    *Israel
    *Jordan
    *Kuwait
    *Lebanon
    *Oman
    *Qatar
    *Saudi Arabia
    *Syria
    *Turkey
    *United Arab Emirates
    *Yemen
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