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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    You are bombing the ones who are FIGHTING the terrorists.
    Hezbollah is a terrorist group. It doesn't exclude that it struggles other terrorist groups. It's OK and I wish all of them fighting each other until the last terrorist is dead.
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    Every time someone says "how come everyone else gets away with this but _____doesn't", what I hear is "how come everyone gets called on this equally but no one gives _____ a free pass because they're special?"

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    When we want to see how the USA fares with regards to Western values we compare it to another Western country. Not Mexico. I can't believe the BS you're spewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Not entirely true. There are Palestinian Arabs living within Israel. They have a higher birthrate than Israeli Jews.
    No, they have the same birthrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Just to make it easier, here's a list of all nations generally considered to be "Middle Eastern." If anyone wants to compare Israel to other countries, take your pick:

    *Armenia
    *Bahrain
    *Egypt
    *Iran
    *Iraq
    *Israel
    *Jordan
    *Kuwait
    *Lebanon
    *Oman
    *Qatar
    *Saudi Arabia
    *Syria
    *Turkey
    *United Arab Emirates
    *Yemen
    Armenia is more complicated than that. Most Armenians, certainly in former USSR, like my mother, consider themselves... ourselves, I guess... as white Christians, basically. Most Russian far right radicals, on the other hand, do NOT consider Armenians as fellow whites, and I was personally constantly called "darkie" and such, during my life in Moscow, and Armenians have been violently attacked by skinheads and such scum, like other minorities, and I too got stabbed once. Though, apparently, this has abated, in recent years, because they target more Muslims now, not fellow Christians, like ourselves lol

    But, point is, even we Armenians, most us, ourselves don't really know what the hell we are. We are a separate ethnic group of our own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by font View Post
    Hezbollah is a terrorist group. It doesn't exclude that it struggles other terrorist groups. It's OK and I wish all of them fighting each other until the last terrorist is dead.
    Defending Lebanon from an Israeli invasion is not "terrorism". My grandma sure as hell wasn't a "terrorist", because she was involved in partizan guerilla warfare against the Nazis on occupied territory during WWII. She was a hero, and was awarded for it accordingly, after the War. Those who defended Lebanon from Israel were heroes too, to their own people.

    I love how you guys talk tough, how you Israelies are so badass You do know you would be nothing without outside help? In the 40s, Stalin supplied you all the weapons you ever needed. And after, the USA carried you on their backs through everything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Every time someone says "how come everyone else gets away with this but _____doesn't", what I hear is "how come everyone gets called on this equally but no one gives _____ a free pass because they're special?"
    I just recall how Stephen Harper was all getting in Putin's face over Crimea at that summit in Australia, remember that? While kissing Israel's ass at the same time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Jews do not believe they are superior; they don't think only Jews go to heaven or that God loves them best. The term "the Chosen people" is meant to convey that God chose them to form a special relationship...
    But they're not special... Color me confused.

    Jews do not view themselves as superior. Anyone with the motivation can become a Jew, if they wish. The preservation of the state of Israel is not about Jewish superiority; it's about Jewish survival. And every human owes the Jews a debt of gratitude, because they are the canaries in the mine. When racism and bigotry begin to rise that might impair YOUR family, you can be certain it impairs Jewish families first. It's the world's oldest and most virulent prejudice. The religion's edicts against assimilation are not about superiority; they are about preserving the Jewish people as a distinct group.
    Forgive me, but that's exactly what a lot of neo-Nazi white supremacists say.

    And Israel does have a right to exist. Among other reasons, it was a promise made to the Jewish people, abandoned to their fates by the Allies in WW II. Almost 50% of the entire Jewish population perished in the concentration camps. New historical facts have revealed the leaders of the Allies knew in 1942 what the Nazis were doing to the Jews, and kept silent for another 4 years.
    So Israel has a right to exist because Hitler? What about the people who were already living there in relative peace? Don't they have rights?

    There are plenty of Jewish people who are not zionists, who did not support the creation of Israel, who suspected it would just stir up Muslim hatred against Jews around the world.

    People who hold themselves apart will always find themselves treated poorly by others. I'm not saying that's okay, I'm just saying that's how it is. You could be any group at all, and if you attempt to live among some ethnic group while demonstrating your differences from them consistently, as the social tensions ebb and flow you will likely end up being abused from time to time. Ask the Irish about Catholics and Protestants. People are stupid that way. Christians and Muslims do it to each other, too. Have for centuries. There isn't really anything special about prejudice against Jews. It's just the same old prejudice that takes hold among the ignorant when their fears are aroused. They find somebody that looks or feels different, pins all of their anxiety onto that group, and goes insane. It's a lot older than Judaism or anything else. I have no doubt the first caveman with blue eyes was slapped around pretty good in his day, too.

    Jewish persecution isn't special. It's just persecution. It's no more or less wrong than any other prejudice, racism, oppression.

    Israel, on the other hand, is a nation, not a religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    When we want to see how the USA fares with regards to Western values we compare it to another Western country. Not Mexico. I can't believe the BS you're spewing.
    If you were addressing me in this post, two points: Israel is surrounded by hostile nations that overwhelm it in population and GDP.

    And Israel belongs to the International Court of Justice. Anyone who thinks that country has committed war crimes is free to pursue the case at the Hague. That does not mean that Israel can be governed by the Hague. That country has the rights to self-determination as any other.

    Meanwhile, neither of these is true of the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    But they're not special... Color me confused.

    Forgive me, but that's exactly what a lot of neo-Nazi white supremacists say.

    So Israel has a right to exist because Hitler? What about the people who were already living there in relative peace? Don't they have rights?

    There are plenty of Jewish people who are not zionists, who did not support the creation of Israel, who suspected it would just stir up Muslim hatred against Jews around the world.

    People who hold themselves apart will always find themselves treated poorly by others. I'm not saying that's okay, I'm just saying that's how it is. You could be any group at all, and if you attempt to live among some ethnic group while demonstrating your differences from them consistently, as the social tensions ebb and flow you will likely end up being abused from time to time. Ask the Irish about Catholics and Protestants. People are stupid that way. Christians and Muslims do it to each other, too. Have for centuries. There isn't really anything special about prejudice against Jews. It's just the same old prejudice that takes hold among the ignorant when their fears are aroused. They find somebody that looks or feels different, pins all of their anxiety onto that group, and goes insane. It's a lot older than Judaism or anything else. I have no doubt the first caveman with blue eyes was slapped around pretty good in his day, too.

    Jewish persecution isn't special. It's just persecution. It's no more or less wrong than any other prejudice, racism, oppression.

    Israel, on the other hand, is a nation, not a religion.
    Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state.

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