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    Missing from President Trump's budget: Funds for California's earthquake early warnin

    President Trump’s budget would eliminate federal funding for an earthquake early warning system being developed for California and the rest of the West Coast which, if enacted, probably would kill the long-planned effort.

    The budget proposal for the year ending in September 2018 also seeks to eliminate U.S. funding for critical tsunami-monitoring stations in oceans and reduce funds for a next-generation weather forecasting system.

    Scientists said the loss of federal funding would derail the early warning system, which officials hope would one day send public earthquake alerts to smartphones seconds or even minutes before a temblor.

    “It probably would kill the early warning system if we thought there were no more funding coming from the U.S. Geological Survey,” said John Vidale, director of the Pacific Northwest Seismic Network and a seismology professor at the University of Washington.

    “The money we’ve received is essential,” Vidale said.

    In a statement announcing the USGS budget, the Department of the Interior said the budget “focuses on core USGS science and efficiency,” and asserted that the budget would be able to fund monitoring of the nation’s earthquakes.

    Missing from President Trump's budget: Funds for California's earthquake early warning system - LA Times
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    nations in developing an earthquake early warning system. In Japan, for instance, national TV broadcasts and cellphones are interrupted with warnings about incoming shaking, and for significant quakes, high-speed trains automatically slow down, as slower speeds reduce the threat of a deadly derailment.

    “All of Japanese society is very happy for their early warning system,” Heaton said. “Nobody in Japan really wants to turn it off. They view it as a great step ahead for them. Californians will, too.”

    In the last few years, lawmakers in Washington and Sacramento have started to devote significant dollars to developing the system.

    In fact, the budget deal reached in Congress for the current budget year that ends in September penciled in $10.2 million for the system, which represented an increase from the previous year’s $8.2 million for the system. The system needs about $16.1 million in yearly operating and maintenance costs, and $38.2 million to build it.
    It isn't just bombs that made America great, but also our will and ability to do research and development. Seems that conservatives want to trade our capacity for innovation to make a safe space for billionaires.
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    What a fucktard government we now have.....
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    What a fucktard government we now have.....
    It's penny wise, and pound foolish.
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    An early warning system for an earthquake lol.

    They happen instantly you know, those big rocks underground shift and it sends up an earthquake in seconds.

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    From the link..

    The earthquake early warning system, being built by the USGS in conjunction with several major universities, still needs more seismic sensors installed across Washington, Oregon and Northern California, and it needs a staff of 40 to 50 people to install and maintain equipment as well as monitor the computer systems. Already, hiring has proven difficult. Since Trump was inaugurated, the Department of the Interior has frozen hiring of senior scientists, including those needed to operate the early warning network.

    “There are people we’ve identified and interviewed and we’d like to hire them as soon as we have permission,” Vidale said. “These are the people who would keep the computer doing what we need to to get the early warning system up and operating.”Without ongoing funding, the ShakeAlert system would need to lay off employees, said Tom Heaton, a Caltech professor of engineering seismology.

    “If that funding went away, we would have to lay off a number of the developers and the development would basically cease,” Heaton said. “I’m not sure how we could possibly recover from that.”

    His budget pretty much slashes a lot of money for scientific research, just another way to turn us into another 3rd world country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    An early warning system for an earthquake lol.

    They happen instantly you know, those big rocks underground shift and it sends up an earthquake in seconds.
    No. Stresses build up gradually allowing monitoring stations to signal the possibility of a tremblor and provides the opportunity for the issuance of a warning. Apparently the Ding Bat in Chief doesn't want to fund that sort of "early warning system." But he is willing to fund his junkets to Florida and New Jersey using taxpayer monies which could fund such a warning system.

    Think that Trump cares about public safety? Think again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    No. Stresses build up gradually allowing monitoring stations to signal the possibility of a tremblor and provides the opportunity for the issuance of a warning. Apparently the Ding Bat in Chief doesn't want to fund that sort of "early warning system." But he is willing to fund his junkets to Florida and New Jersey using taxpayer monies which could fund such a warning system.

    Think that Trump cares about public safety? Think again.

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    The whole fault line is building up stress and any part of it can go at any time. You cannot predict where or when something is going to slip. And once it happens there is no time to warn anyone of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    The whole fault line is building up stress and any part of it can go at any time. You cannot predict where or when something is going to slip. And once it happens there is no time to warn anyone of anything.
    That's why the USGS has monitoring stations along the fault.

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    We're not likely to gave an early warning system if we don't do the research, are we.

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