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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I already have healthcare very cheap and I don't care what you pay in taxes.

    I do care what I pay.
    we all care what we pay - in that you are surely not alone. it's what you get for what you pay that matters more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Emotional term, punish the rich, normalize the value of a fair tax system, and you don't use such emotional language, thought better of you.
    reckon you thought incorrectly, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    we all care what we pay - in that you are surely not alone. it's what you get for what you pay that matters more.
    Very well, tell me what benefit I gain from your tax plan that outweighs what I lose.

    I am willing to let you convince me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Very well, tell me what benefit I gain from your tax plan that outweighs what I lose.

    I am willing to let you convince me.
    did you read it - seems to be clear, to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    did you read it - seems to be clear, to me.
    I did indeed read it, multiple times.

    All I see are my taxes going up, no increased benefit for me.

    Why would I vote to lose a significant portion of my money for no gain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I did indeed read it, multiple times.

    All I see are my taxes going up, no increased benefit for me.

    Why would I vote to lose a significant portion of my money for no gain?
    the last paragraph of the original post is copied below just for you. seems you were much too fixated on taxes:


    next is healthcare. the system would cover all citizens with benefits equal to the current medicare outline with the addition of prescription drugs as is now the case in almost every state rules. additional "supplemental" plans will be available nationally for added coverage at the option of the individual - similar to the current Medicare supplement system. Medicare, medicaid, PPACA and vet care will cease to become a separate systems and their funding will be transferred to the new system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    the last paragraph of the original post is copied below just for you. seems you were much too fixated on taxes:


    next is healthcare. the system would cover all citizens with benefits equal to the current medicare outline with the addition of prescription drugs as is now the case in almost every state rules. additional "supplemental" plans will be available nationally for added coverage at the option of the individual - similar to the current Medicare supplement system. Medicare, medicaid, PPACA and vet care will cease to become a separate systems and their funding will be transferred to the new system.
    And that benefits me how?

    This is the problem you are going to face with the middle/upper middle class voter.

    I am on a strict budget, all of my money goes somewhere and I am not changing any of my savings plans. The only option I have for extra money is what I donate to children's cancer research foundations and places like Make-A-Wish.

    You start yanking money from me and that's going to pull from my charitable giving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    reckon you thought incorrectly, eh?
    Pretty much, how do you feel about US corporations having to claim inventory, while European firms can capitalize and call it a tax exemption?

    How do you feel about preachers building pools in their yards, and writing it off as part of their religious freedom, since they can baptize in them?

    Oh, how do you feel about wealth folk claiming recreation as rehabilitation expenses, again, use the pool analogy, old bastard has a heart attack, his doctor "prescribes exercise, low impact, suggests swimming" half million dollar pool gets built, and it gets written off? that's very real you know

    Or better yet, Steve Jobs taking one dollar a year as salary, with an unlimited expense account? Apple writing off the expense?

    You want to take a closer look bonehead? there's a lot of cob webs to be cleaned up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    And that benefits me how?

    This is the problem you are going to face with the middle/upper middle class voter.

    I am on a strict budget, all of my money goes somewhere and I am not changing any of my savings plans. The only option I have for extra money is what I donate to children's cancer research foundations and places like Make-A-Wish.

    You start yanking money from me and that's going to pull from my charitable giving.
    you don't have to pay insurance premiums - it's covered by the tax increase (5% more than you currently pay). that gonna break you? it hurts me also - but it's a net cost savings if I don't have to pay Medicare premiums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    you don't have to pay insurance premiums - it's covered by the tax increase (5% more than you currently pay). that gonna break you? it hurts me also - but it's a net cost savings if I don't have to pay Medicare premiums.
    So my insurance is through the Mayo Clinic.

    Are you telling me that if this passes I will no longer pay them premiums?

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