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    Bernie has caught the imagination of a lot of young people. George McGovern did the same in 1972 and the young ideologues set the stage for 12 years of unchallenged GOP rule of the White House. Do we need to walk that road again?
    My sentiments exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Yes!
    Did you read the article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Did you read the article?
    They are entitled to their opinion.

    Just like me.

    And you.

    And everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    They are entitled to their opinion.

    Just like me.

    And you.

    And everyone else.
    Well, besides what the author of the article mentioned, our system is not conducive to more that two factions. Even if you were to be elected as a independent you'd still have to caucus with one party or the other to get anything done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Well, besides what the author of the article mentioned, our system is not conducive to more that two factions. Even if you were to be elected as a independent you'd still have to caucus with one party or the other to get anything done.
    I have been wishing for a third party for many years now.

    Not just a fringe party, but a party with a realistic chance to win.

    Probably won't happen anytime soon, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    I have been wishing for a third party for many years now.

    Not just a fringe party, but a party with a realistic chance to win.

    Probably won't happen anytime soon, however.
    If a third party came to prominence it would overcome one or the other current parties and simply replace one of the two that exist now and we'd be back to two major parties. Our system doesn't allow for more than two parties. As the article in the OP points out, you have to have A LOT of money and a small organization just cannot compete with the major parties' ability to raise money. And as I pointed out, you have to have a large coalition to get anything done in our Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Well, besides what the author of the article mentioned, our system is not conducive to more that two factions. Even if you were to be elected as a independent you'd still have to caucus with one party or the other to get anything done.
    Ideally I would love more parties, 4 or 5. Then do runoff type scenarios like Europe. New parties appear there all the time and if popular they gain seats and power via coalition. It would be difficult here as you say though. We were made to be a 2 party system. I wouldn't want an independent party though, it would have to be a named party, progressives, tea party etc. Then they would form a coalition with dems or repubs. But it would be trying for quite a while getting it off the ground. I do worry though about 2020 and beyond since there has been some interest in celebrities running as indies. Dwayne Johnson said he would love to run as an independent but I don't know if he will.
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    There is a lower percentage of third parties inhabited by a small segment of society who view elections as all about them. Perhaps it is residue of the "ME" generation. And so they chant "No one represents me" "Elections suck" "The 2 parties are the same" "All politicians are corrupt" "They all represent corporate greed"in NATIONAL ELECTIONS where third parties only act as spoilers. Pick the excuse for why they decide to vote against this country by picking candidates who can't win but can seat the worse candidates. The bottom line is they are jaded and angry. They see themselves as superior though they have little ability to focus on the real issues before them.

    The bottom line though is that the third party is important for regional elections where a few can be elected but nationally one would have to be struck blind to miss that as a national spoiler the few can do a lot of damage to this country as seen today and back in the Nader days. That appears to be what makes them happy. Third parties won't go away. They are a platform for the self-disenfranchised to look down on common sense and pretend they are driven by brilliance. Sorry you asked? lol
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