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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    That's why there is the belief that politics is a circle with the far left and the far right hitting anarchy and ending up looney. Sometimes its hard to tell the extremes apart.
    I think we've just solved the difficulties with the whole left-right thing, the fact that nobody is really all left or all right, and that in extremes they start to resemble each other more and more.

    There is no left and right. There is only rational, and irrational. Presumably, orbiting around a true Center, a balance between government and freedom, free markets and regulation, labor and management, all of it, constitutes a rational position. Any sort of fundamentalism is obviously irrational. Less regulation is not ALWAYS the right answer. More social programs is not ALWAYS the right answer. Etc.

    I'm going to try looking through that lens for a while, see if I can do it. I think I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    I think we've just solved the difficulties with the whole left-right thing, the fact that nobody is really all left or all right, and that in extremes they start to resemble each other more and more.

    There is no left and right. There is only rational, and irrational. Presumably, orbiting around a true Center, a balance between government and freedom, free markets and regulation, labor and management, all of it, constitutes a rational position. Any sort of fundamentalism is obviously irrational. Less regulation is not ALWAYS the right answer. More social programs is not ALWAYS the right answer. Etc.

    I'm going to try looking through that lens for a while, see if I can do it. I think I can.
    That's a good point. Very few people fit into a neat little left or right box. I know republicans that are pro choice and liberals that are pro gun. Forcing sides into boxes just makes people rebel. It just becomes, "lets just get something done for everybody." I think if we all tried to look at the rational people on both sides with open minds we would get things solved. The irrational ones would fade away and be seriously outnumbered and not given a platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    That's a good point. Very few people fit into a neat little left or right box. I know republicans that are pro choice and liberals that are pro gun. Forcing sides into boxes just makes people rebel. It just becomes, "lets just get something done for everybody." I think if we all tried to look at the rational people on both sides with open minds we would get things solved. The irrational ones would fade away and be seriously outnumbered and not given a platform.
    I am a Liberal who likes guns, is pro choice, wasn't offended by Trump saying there were bad people on both sides (as an isolated comment), thinks Trump is often getting unfairly bashed by the Old Boys, overall thinks Trump is a disgrace and an embarrassment, detested the Cheney/Bush War, knows Obama folded on Wall Street and Healthcare and bombs and torture, believes competition and capital are excellent tools, realizes a powerful military is important but also that it has to be kept on a leash, blah blah blah.

    Most people are like that. The ones who aren't are the problem. They're the ones making all the noise, most of the time.
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