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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    It means that you have universities that are less likely to hire conservatives. For much the same reasons as the results in the OP. Because they don't just disagree with them, they think that their politics are a result of a character defect.
    This is such crap, people don't ask for political views in job interviews, that is illegal. People get hired based on the merits of their education, their academic research, what they have published. But I can see if someone tries to pass off that homosexuality is a choice in their research, that would be poor quality publication record and would not get a job.

    The more likely scenario is that liberals tend to be more drawn to academia, the freedom to explore knowledge and discover new truths, and conservatives might be more geared toward industry.

    And universities are all inclusive, their students make up people of all cultures, so if someone is saying hateful things that is negative to the students, its not good business to keep someone like that around when the students are what make the university and pays a lot of the bills

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    Might also be about differences in how we're wired. Talheim et al. (2014, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin), for example, find that liberals think more analytically than conservatives
    If that were the case, they should be able to understand their ideological opponents reasoning better than has been demonstrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    This is such crap, people don't ask for political views in job interviews, that is illegal. People get hired based on the merits of their education, their academic research, what they have published. But I can see if someone tries to pass off that homosexuality is a choice in their research, that would be poor quality publication record and would not get a job.

    The more likely scenario is that liberals tend to be more drawn to academia, the freedom to explore knowledge and discover new truths, and conservatives might be more geared toward industry.

    And universities are all inclusive, their students make up people of all cultures, so if someone is saying hateful things that is negative to the students, its not good business to keep someone like that around when the students are what make the university and pays a lot of the bills
    This will be laughed at by anyone who has ever actually been to a university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    If that were the case, they should be able to understand their ideological opponents reasoning better than has been demonstrated.
    If? It an empirical study of over 5000 participants. However, you're forgiven, as it fits well with the notion that conservatives do not think as analytically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    It means that you have universities that are less likely to hire conservatives. For much the same reasons as the results in the OP. Because they don't just disagree with them, they think that their politics are a result of a character defect.
    How are universities supposed to hire them when they are not applying for jobs there?

    You seem to miss the point - conservatives CHOOSE not to work in academia.

    I can tell you however that within the political science department of my son's college - conservative speakers are invited to speak a lot.

    Last year he met one of the managing editors of Breitbart and got to chat when him afterwards.

    Hopefully most political science departments across universities do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    This will be laughed at by anyone who has ever actually been to a university.
    LOL, and yet, a stupid one line refuting nothing.

    I work in academia and spent most of my adult life in academia, and I don't care if you believe me or not, your dumb posts and inability to actually argue your position and only deflect, compared to my post providing plenty of reasoning, shows everybody who really has actually been to a university.

    But hey, just do what you do good, ignore all the points that hurt your positions. Maybe you should have paid attention in university, you'd be able to form an argument and be able to defend it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    LOL, and yet, a stupid one line refuting nothing.

    I work in academia and spent most of my adult life in academia, and I don't care if you believe me or not, your dumb posts and inability to actually argue your position and only deflect, compared to my post providing plenty of reasoning, shows everybody who really has actually been to a university.

    But hey, just do what you do good, ignore all the points that hurt your positions. Maybe you should have paid attention in university, you'd be able to form an argument and be able to defend it
    You aren't fooling anyone. They don't give out doctorates in trollogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    If? It an empirical study of over 5000 participants. However, you're forgiven, as it fits well with the notion that conservatives do not think as analytically.
    This also fits in pretty well with the notion that you didn't read the OP.
    Understanding your opponent is basic analytical strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    What is that supposed to mean?

    If they do not CHOOSE to get a Phd, how is that anyone's fault?
    It's a perception issue and it's doesn't matter whether it's fact or fiction. If conservatives don't feel they are wanted by academic institutions because of how others view their politics, that tends to lessen their motivation for applying. Especially if they feel they have to keep their politics under wrap with their liberal staff members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    This also fits in pretty well with the notion that you didn't read the OP.
    Understanding your opponent is basic analytical strategy.
    There's an amusement value that you whined about someone ignoring a study and you ignored one as soon as you realised it didn't fit your bias. God bless!
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