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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Hollywood, OG posted the platform of 1968. A time I could have gone either way. You need the platform to see if it fits you as a Conservative.
    Actually, no. That's, again, a PARTY platform. The point of my OP isn't about party, historically or present day. It's about ideology -- i.e., core beliefs, principles, philosophies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Hollywood, OG posted the platform of 1968. A time I could have gone either way. You need the platform to see if it fits you as a Conservative.
    Yes exactly. And the platform can change from year to year, from decade to decade. It's why I made the statement that "Democrat" and "Republican" are little more than valuable brand names.
    My late father often referred to himself as a "Eisenhower Republican", but today he would be appalled by the Republican party.
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    Platforms change but ideologies do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    List that credible and objective evidence.
    Prove me wrong. Wouldn't that make you happy?
    Carry on.
    No, I don't actually care to debate you on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    No, I don't actually care to debate you on anything.
    No, you should continue to defend your position, if you can, the truth is it is wrong, you try to usurp a basic American ideal as conservative; it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Platforms change but ideologies do not.
    Agreed.

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    I gave my reasons why I once leaned Conservative. Now, I will never be one. Even though I have many conservative ideas.

    They have been lost. Without a guide you have no idea what you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    No, you should continue to defend your position, if you can, the truth is it is wrong, you try to usurp a basic American ideal as conservative; it is not.
    Conservatism has a set of bullet points that define what the ideology is.

    If a certain thing hits most of those bullet points then it is save to call it conservatism.

    That goes the same for any ideology.

    As you have stated, America believes in principles that define it as a conservative viewpoint.

    Conservatism is non-changing so is liberalism, libertarianism, anarchism, communism, and all the other ism's out there.

    You don't apply an ideology to a circumstance, you look at the circumstance and see which ideology it most closely aligns to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Agreed.
    Neither one of you have posted what it means for you to be conservative. Just go on and on about parties.

    Maybe it would help if you posted your thoughts. So far all you have done is go on about parties.

    You can not say what you are without a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Neither one of you have posted what it means for you to be conservative. Just go on and on about parties.

    Maybe it would help if you posted your thoughts. So far all you have done is go on about parties.

    You can not say what you are without a reason.
    You're correct - I haven't posted mine yet. It's coming out in an article in two days and I will be free to then. I wanted to get the discussion going here and was interested in seeing what other conservatives/right-leaning posters had to say, though so far, hardly any of them have weighed in.

    I have referenced parties several times because several of the people who HAVE posted keep referring to them and I'm trying to explain that my inquiry has to do with ideology, not party.
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