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    Richard Branson: Donald Trump told me he wanted 'to spend the rest of his life' getti

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    Billionaire and Virgin Group founder Richard Branson published a blog post on Friday recalling his first interaction with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, in which Trump reportedly vowed to spend the rest of his life seeking revenge on five people who had refused to help him.



    "Even before the starters arrived he began telling me about how he had asked a number of people for help after his latest bankruptcy and how five of them were unwilling to help," Branson wrote, although he didn't identify the five people.

    "He told me he was going to spend the rest of his life destroying these five people."

    Branson called the encounter "bizarre" and expressed concerns about Trump's "vindictive streak," which he said wouldn't bode well for a president who should be more concerned with global affairs than personal vendettas.

    Richard Branson: Trump said he'd spend his life 'destroying' 5 people - Business Insider
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    I can only wonder how his list compares to Hillary's.

    Hillary’s Hit List

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    I weirdly had the very thought this morning. Wondering if Trumps entire MO is vengeance. I didn't initially believe he, though a POS, was driven by paybacks, vengeance. I'm not so sure anymore.

    On his radar--now ADDED, way after that telling conversation with Branson, is OBAMA. Trump seems to be eaten up by hatred of him. More so than even Hillary.
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    He has always been very vindictive. Went after business people and other developers over the years for not agreeing with him. When he rebuilt the old Wollman skating rink in Central Park, his close execs suggested he leave his name off of it since the city knew he had funded the renovation. Instead he put a huge "TRUMP Rink" all over it and fired them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    I can only wonder how his list compares to Hillary's.

    Hillary’s Hit List
    in the future, you might want to hold off a few more minutes before your attempts to derail a thread. Accounting for the time it took for you to find your link. You want there to be at least an appearance that you bothered to read the OP and related links sourced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    I can only wonder how his list compares to Hillary's.

    Hillary’s Hit List
    Of course you do.

    From your link:

    McCaskill regretted her remark instantly; the anguish brought her “to the point of epic tears,” according to a friend. She knew the comment had sounded much more deliberate than a forgivable slip of the tongue. So did Hillary, who immediately canceled a planned fundraiser for McCaskill. A few days later, McCaskill called Bill Clinton to offer a tearful apology. He was gracious, which just made McCaskill feel worse. After winning the seat, she was terrified of running into Hillary Clinton in the Capitol. “I really don’t want to be in an elevator alone with her,” McCaskill confided to the friend.

    But Hillary, who was just then embarking on her presidential campaign, still wanted something from McCaskill—the Missourian’s endorsement. Women’s groups, including the pro-choice women’s fundraising network EMILY’s List, pressured McCaskill to jump aboard the Clinton bandwagon, and Hillary courted her new colleague personally, setting up a one-on-one lunch in the Senate Dining Room in early 2007. Rather than ask for McCaskill’s support directly, Hillary took a softer approach, seeking common ground on the struggles of campaigning, including the physical toll. “There’s a much more human side to Hillary,” McCaskill thought.
    Can you imagine trump apologizing to the pregnant, grieving widow he's gone to war with for nothing more than objecting to his tone in a phone call?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    I can only wonder how his list compares to Hillary's.

    Hillary’s Hit List
    Well you have 2 OBVIOUS reasons for the list. Who you can use for surrogates to campaign for you and who can raise money for you?

    Did I MISS the part where she went after anyone? If so what did she do to them? Do I need to read it again? WHERE'S THE HIT??

    PS McCaskill was Hillary's surrogate (cheerleader) sent to FLA for our biggest fundraiser for all of the state in late 2015, the kickoff for 2016. Boy Claire was one helluva a good ACTRESS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Well you have 2 OBVIOUS reasons for the list. Who you can use for surrogates to campaign for you and who can raise money for you?

    Did I MISS the part where she WENT AFTER anyone? If so what did SHE do to them? Do I need to read it again? WHERE'S THE HIT??
    Well, apparently you did......

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...it_129787.html

    ...Elder: "Why do you suppose has Hillary never -- to my knowledge -- been asked, point-blank, 'Did you or did you not verbally intimidate an alleged rape survivor by the name Juanita Broaddrick, as she alleges you did?'"

    Klayman: "I don't think anybody's had the guts to do it. ... But the hard reality here is ... Hillary Clinton started what was called the 'war room.' ... This is ... in the campaign of 1992, which elected her husband. George Stephanopoulos was part of that. James Carville was part of it. And the purpose of the war room -- and Stephanopoulos ... of course ... doesn't want to discuss this -- was to destroy any woman that would challenge Bill Clinton, because she knew, undoubtedly, that if her husband didn't make it to the White House, that someday she wouldn't make it to the White House, either. ... She wanted to protect her own interests, and to do that she had to destroy the women who she knew were going to come forward and reveal the alleged sexual harassment and rape, and the intimidation that was about ready to be leveled against these women to keep them quiet."

    Elder: "What can you tell us about what Hillary did? What was her role in all of this?"

    Klayman: "We know from the various women who had contact. Some of them had contact with Hillary Clinton in Arkansas. They know her way of doing business. ... And Stephanopoulos and Carville himself effectively admitted it when they did that documentary, 'The War Room.' It was Hillary who was at the top of that. She was the one who called the shots. And the private detectives who were sicced on these women ... were hired by Hillary Clinton. I took the deposition of (one) and confirmed that (he was) hired through Hillary's lawyer. So there's a lot of different evidence here, direct and circumstantial, that places Hillary at the center of these acts against the women."

    Elder: "The most serious allegation, of course, is the one by Juanita Broaddrick. She claims that when Bill Clinton was Arkansas attorney general, he raped her, and two weeks later, at some campaign function, Hillary came up to her and verbally intimidated her, saying things to her, according to Broaddrick, that made it clear: Keep your mouth shut, or else."

    Klayman: "One of the private detectives broke into her house and took an answering-machine tape ... to make sure there was no evidence of what had occurred. These were the kind of things that have been done. ... They would have the private detectives -- for instance, Kathleen Willey experienced this -- she was riding her bike one day and one of these private detectives, or one of his agents, rode up to her on another bike and mentioned the names of her children in a very sinister way. 'How are your children, Ms. Willey?' In fact, that happened to me during a deposition at Judicial Watch, where one of the lawyers that were representing the Clintons -- shortly after my daughter was born -- mentioned her name. And there was no way of knowing that. They wanted us to know that they were watching us ... that we were at risk."

    Elder: "I've interviewed Kathleen Willey, and I've said to her, as I'm saying to you, when people came by and made threats and said names and suggested she should 'watch it,' you still can't trace that to Hillary."

    Klayman: "In a court of law, it's not just direct but circumstantial evidence. I gave you a little bit of it. ... If you add it all up ... it creates a pattern where she's capable of almost anything."

    Hillary Clinton once said that when women allege sexual assault, they "have the right to be believed." Let's leave it at this -- for now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    Well, apparently you did......

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...it_129787.html

    ...Elder: "Why do you suppose has Hillary never -- to my knowledge -- been asked, point-blank, 'Did you or did you not verbally intimidate an alleged rape survivor by the name Juanita Broaddrick, as she alleges you did?'"

    Klayman: "I don't think anybody's had the guts to do it. ... But the hard reality here is ... Hillary Clinton started what was called the 'war room.' ... This is ... in the campaign of 1992, which elected her husband. George Stephanopoulos was part of that. James Carville was part of it. And the purpose of the war room -- and Stephanopoulos ... of course ... doesn't want to discuss this -- was to destroy any woman that would challenge Bill Clinton, because she knew, undoubtedly, that if her husband didn't make it to the White House, that someday she wouldn't make it to the White House, either. ... She wanted to protect her own interests, and to do that she had to destroy the women who she knew were going to come forward and reveal the alleged sexual harassment and rape, and the intimidation that was about ready to be leveled against these women to keep them quiet."

    Elder: "What can you tell us about what Hillary did? What was her role in all of this?"

    Klayman: "We know from the various women who had contact. Some of them had contact with Hillary Clinton in Arkansas. They know her way of doing business. ... And Stephanopoulos and Carville himself effectively admitted it when they did that documentary, 'The War Room.' It was Hillary who was at the top of that. She was the one who called the shots. And the private detectives who were sicced on these women ... were hired by Hillary Clinton. I took the deposition of (one) and confirmed that (he was) hired through Hillary's lawyer. So there's a lot of different evidence here, direct and circumstantial, that places Hillary at the center of these acts against the women."

    Elder: "The most serious allegation, of course, is the one by Juanita Broaddrick. She claims that when Bill Clinton was Arkansas attorney general, he raped her, and two weeks later, at some campaign function, Hillary came up to her and verbally intimidated her, saying things to her, according to Broaddrick, that made it clear: Keep your mouth shut, or else."

    Klayman: "One of the private detectives broke into her house and took an answering-machine tape ... to make sure there was no evidence of what had occurred. These were the kind of things that have been done. ... They would have the private detectives -- for instance, Kathleen Willey experienced this -- she was riding her bike one day and one of these private detectives, or one of his agents, rode up to her on another bike and mentioned the names of her children in a very sinister way. 'How are your children, Ms. Willey?' In fact, that happened to me during a deposition at Judicial Watch, where one of the lawyers that were representing the Clintons -- shortly after my daughter was born -- mentioned her name. And there was no way of knowing that. They wanted us to know that they were watching us ... that we were at risk."

    Elder: "I've interviewed Kathleen Willey, and I've said to her, as I'm saying to you, when people came by and made threats and said names and suggested she should 'watch it,' you still can't trace that to Hillary."

    Klayman: "In a court of law, it's not just direct but circumstantial evidence. I gave you a little bit of it. ... If you add it all up ... it creates a pattern where she's capable of almost anything."

    Hillary Clinton once said that when women allege sexual assault, they "have the right to be believed." Let's leave it at this -- for now...
    Klayman has his own vendetta, and ethics issues:

    Hardball tactics
    Klayman's opponents denounce his relentless style of litigation, where he seems "undeterred by either criticism or setbacks," and claim he uses the court system as a "weapon" against his political enemies. Klayman's approach to litigation is not simply to win cases, but to unearth documents normally hidden from the public, as well as to garner media attention. He has been credited with changing the tone of partisan investigations in Washington D.C..[28] In the 90s, Klayman deposed several White House officials, probing James Carville about his television habits, Paul Begala about his priest, and George Stephanopoulos about his traffic tickets. Carville publicly described Klayman as a "little twerp" and Klayman responded by questioning him about the statement during a deposition.[9][29]

    Sanctions and discipline imposed
    Following Klayman's behavior in a 1992 trial in California federal court, Judge William Keller barred Klayman from his courtroom for life. Five years later, in a separate case in New York, Klayman's behavior led then district judge Denny Chin to issue a lifetime ban on the attorney practicing law before him.[30] Klayman has written about his dealings with Keller and Chin, claiming that Keller acted "erratic" and was "obviously drunk" at the bench and that Chin was "belligerent and disrespectful." [31]

    In 2007, Klayman received a $25,000 retainer from a Daytona Beach woman facing criminal charges and she accused him of not providing legal services in return.[32] The Florida Bar Association mediated the matter and Klayman agreed to pay off a small portion within 90 days, but after the deadline lapsed he was reprimanded by the association.[33][34]

    In 2014, Klayman agreed to be publicly censured by the D.C. Bar. Klayman represented three individuals who had sued Judicial Watch, his former employer and client, but he failed to obtain Judicial Watch's consent to waive his conflict of interest. Klayman maintained that the bar "recognized there was no evidence of dishonesty or personal gain".[35] In June 2017, however, the discipline committee recommended that Klayman be suspended from practicing law for 90 days.[36][37]

    An October 2016 opinion by a federal appellate court noted 12 cases "in which Klayman’s ability to practice law in an ethical and orderly manner was called into question."[38] Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    I weirdly had the very thought this morning. Wondering if Trumps entire MO is vengeance. I didn't initially believe he, though a POS, was driven by paybacks, vengeance. I'm not so sure anymore.

    On his radar--now ADDED, way after that telling conversation with Branson, is OBAMA. Trump seems to be eaten up by hatred of him. More so than even Hillary.
    Oh, You're entitled to your opinion but I certainly cannot share it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.aeea4446df2a

    ...Nevertheless, Hillary Clinton dismissed an accusation made by Gennifer Flowers, the singer who sold her story to a supermarket tabloid after having previously denied an affair. In an ABC News interview, she called Flowers “some failed cabaret singer who doesn’t even have much of a résumé to fall back on.” She told Esquire magazine in 1992 that if she had the chance to cross-examine Flowers, “I mean, I would crucify her.”

    Hillary Clinton’s support for her husband was crucial, and she sat by his side during a crucial “60 Minutes” interview, saying she was not like the victim in Tammy Wynette’s “Stand By Your Man.” Campaign pollster Stan Greenberg said at the time that the public would disregard the allegations if they believed he had been truthful to his wife.

    Six years later, Bill Clinton acknowledged a sexual encounter with Flowers.

    As other women emerged, Hillary Clinton helped forge aggressive defenses.

    Former White House press secretary George Stephanopoulos recalled in his memoir discussing a woman’s allegation published in Penthouse Magazine. He said that after her husband dismissed it as untrue during a meeting, Hillary Clinton said, “We have to destroy her story.

    By July 1992, the campaign hired private detective Jack Palladino to investigate the accusers involved in two dozen allegations.

    In 1994, former Arkansas state employee Paula Jones alleged in a lawsuit that Bill Clinton groped her in a hotel room three years earlier. Hillary Clinton wrote in her autobiography, “Living History,” that she erred in opposing an early settlement.

    Eventually, Bill Clinton settled for $850,000. During discovery, Jones’s attorneys found out about White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

    Her husband denied the relationship, and Hillary Clinton blamed the allegations on a “vast right-wing conspiracy.”

    Asked on “Good Morning America” if her husband had been truthful, she said, “I know he has.”

    A former White House aide who spoke on the conditions of anonymity to talk about private discussions said Hillary Clinton blamed the scandal on political enemies and insisted that privacy was sacred.

    Bill Clinton admitted his untruthfulness in August 1998.

    Hillary Clinton wrote in her autobiography that her husband claimed Lewinsky had misinterpreted his attention. “It was such a familiar scenario that I had little trouble believing the accusations were groundless,” she wrote.

    A chill fell over the White House as the truth about Lewinsky emerged, former staffers and friends said.

    She had to do what she had always done before: swallow her doubts, stand by her man and savage his enemies,” Stephanopoulos wrote, describing Hillary Clinton’s reaction.

    “I think it was obvious she was more than mad, more than upset,” said Mary Mel French, a White House aide during the Clinton years. “She wasn’t speaking to him. . . . It took a long time for that to settle down.”

    Hillary Clinton did not speak publicly about Lewinsky and confided in few people. Matthews, her Little Rock pastor, said he offered to listen, but she warned him that he might be subpoenaed.

    “She’s not the type of person who calls friends and cries about it,” Henry said.

    Hillary Clinton opened up to Blair’s wife, Diane, a few weeks later, according to a diary kept by the now-deceased friend. “She thinks she was not smart enough, not sensitive enough, not free enough of her own concerns and struggles,” Diane Blair wrote. “It was a lapse, but she says to his credit he tried to break it off, tried to pull away, tried to manage someone who was clearly a ‘narcissistic loony toon;’ but it was beyond control.”

    Lewinsky wrote in Vanity Fair in 2014 that she found Hillary Clinton’s “impulse to blame the Woman — not only me, but herself — troubling.” She declined an interview request.

    Accuser Juanita Broaddrick, whose claim of a 1978 sexual assault has been denied by the Clintons, thinks Hillary Clinton was too passive. “I always felt if she’d been a stronger person . . . she could have done something about his behavior,” she said...

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