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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Whut are the core beliefs of American conservatives? I thought they were:

    1. Smaller government is better. State and local governments deliver better services than the federal government, for far less money.

    2. America first. Our workers, our businesses, our borders. We are not the world policeman.

    3. Certain institutions and people working within them deserve respect, as a rule. The U.S. military, our police and fire forces, religious leaders, teachers, health care workers.

    4. Government policies should support marriages, families and children. Those policies should not encourage destructive behaviors like opioid drug taking, gambling, careless spending and excessive debt, etc.

    Are these still the fundamentals of American conservatives? Did I state them correctly?

    Your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    The party-over-country GOP extremists who've latched onto Donald Trump aren't "American conservatives".
    Certainly not practicing ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    The party-over-country GOP extremists who've latched onto Donald Trump aren't "American conservatives".
    Unfortunately, that's nearly all Republicans who are 1) elected to a national office and 2) are running for re-election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Certainly not practicing ones.
    All of the real conservatives got eliminated in the primaries, along with the couple of actual moderates. And the winner was the guy pretending to be a conservative, and he is still pretending and blows with the wind day by day on his beliefs because he has no actual beliefs. Just playing to his audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Conservatives don't like to spend money the they don't have. They don't accept what is not acceptable and they don't feel a need to apologize for who they are, were or who they aspire to be.

    (Sent from my android from the conservative half of myself.)
    They should apologize for what they aspire to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    All of the real conservatives got eliminated in the primaries, along with the couple of actual moderates. And the winner was the guy pretending to be a conservative, and he is still pretending and blows with the wind day by day on his beliefs because he has no actual beliefs. Just playing to his audience.
    Yep they had quite a selection of more conservative candidates to choose from yet, they settled for Trump. Maybe they should have kept their noses out of Dem politics and focused on their own since multitasking just isn't their forte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    All of the real conservatives got eliminated in the primaries, along with the couple of actual moderates. And the winner was the guy pretending to be a conservative, and he is still pretending and blows with the wind day by day on his beliefs because he has no actual beliefs. Just playing to his audience.
    Don't disagree, though I wasn't limiting my comment to candidates/officials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Unfortunately, that's nearly all Republicans who are 1) elected to a national office and 2) are running for re-election.
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Don't disagree, though I wasn't limiting my comment to candidates/officials.
    My big divide is with social conservatives, the fiscal conservatives I can find common ground with. Give me a dozen Newt Gingriches and John McCains and Zero Santorums and Huckabees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    My big divide is with social conservatives, the fiscal conservatives I can find common ground with. Give me a dozen Newt Gingriches and John McCains and Zero Santorums and Huckabees.
    I'm a hybrid. Fiscal conservative/social moderate/libertarian leanings.
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