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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Prisons should be a place of survival.

    The only function of guards is to make sure they don't get past the fence.
    People who run the prison camp system in Russia think exactly like you, my friend: "Red" prisons vs. "Black" prisons

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Nope, nope, nope...prison is a place of punishment, not rehabilitation.

    Period.

    You want to get better go find God and do it.....don't ask the state to make you better, we are there to punish you.
    After your period of absence, I find that it is no longer possible to tell whether you are serious, or whether you just say nonsensical things to see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    By TIMOTHY WILLIAMSAPRIL 3, 2018

    JACKSON, Miss. — On the witness stand and under pressure, Frank Shaw, the warden of the East Mississippi Correctional Facility, could not guarantee that the prison was capable of performing its most basic function.

    Asked if the guards were supposed to keep inmates in their cells, he said, wearily, “They do their best.”

    According to evidence and testimony at a federal civil rights trial, far worse things were happening at the prison than inmates strolling around during a lockdown: A mentally ill man on suicide watch hanged himself, gang members were allowed to beat other prisoners, and those whose cries for medical attention were ignored resorted to setting fires in their cells.

    So many shackled men have recounted instances of extraordinary violence and neglect in the prison that the judge has complained of exhaustion.

    The case, which has received little attention beyond the local news media, provides a rare glimpse into the cloistered world of privately operated prisons, at a time when the number of state inmates in private facilities is increasing and the Trump administration has indicated that it will expand their use.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/u...son-abuse.html
    Is there any evidence that this is different than what happens in government run prisons...??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    After your period of absence, I find that it is no longer possible to tell whether you are serious, or whether you just say nonsensical things to see what happens.
    A Poe.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poe

    The term was coined owing to the emergence of this style of response while debating creationists, but it has spread to every other area of discourse and it has come to describe an individual who floats the dumbest of comments in order to stir the pot (well that's how the term is used on the more 'scientific fora' I frequent).
    Last edited by Blues63; 9th April 2018 at 08:43 PM.
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    I think the criminal justice system is one of the many aspects of society where the Anglo-American sphere has it all wrong.

    This -

    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt
    Nope, nope, nope...prison is a place of punishment, not rehabilitation.

    Period.

    You want to get better go find God and do it.....don't ask the state to make you better, we are there to punish you.
    is perhaps an all too common misconception amongst Americans and many Brits.

    Let us look at the nation with the highest standard of living in the world - Norway.

    A few comparative facts -

    In Norway, fewer than 4,000 of the country’s 5 million people were behind bars as of August 2014.

    That makes Norway’s incarceration rate just 75 per 100,000 people, compared to 707 people for every 100,000 people in the US.

    On top of that, when criminals in Norway leave prison, they stay out. It has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world at 20%. The US has one of the highest: 76.6% of prisoners are re-arrested within five years.
    https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress...so-successful/

    Could these photos possibly give us a clue as to cause and effect?


    Arizona prison cells.



    Cell in Halden Prison, Norway (the doors have locks, but it is the individual prisoners who have the keys).

    The Norwegian attitude to imprisonment is that the punishment consists of the loss of liberty - and no more. Other privations are regarded as 'cruel and unusual punishment'.

    The proof of the pudding is, as they say, in the eating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo2 View Post
    I think the criminal justice system is one of the many aspects of society where the Anglo-American sphere has it all wrong.

    This -



    is perhaps an all too common misconception amongst Americans and many Brits.

    Let us look at the nation with the highest standard of living in the world - Norway.

    A few comparative facts -


    https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress...so-successful/

    Could these photos possibly give us a clue as to cause and effect?


    Arizona prison cells.



    Cell in Halden Prison, Norway (the doors have locks, but it is the individual prisoners who have the keys).

    The Norwegian attitude to imprisonment is that the punishment consists of the loss of liberty - and no more. Other privations are regarded as 'cruel and unusual punishment'.

    The proof of the pudding is, as they say, in the eating.
    Perhaps liberty means more to Norwegians than it does to Americans, if its loss is punishment enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Prisons should be a place of survival.

    The only function of guards is to make sure they don't get past the fence.
    The 8th amendment forbids such a scenario.
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