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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Macduff is sometimes a vociferous defender of Trump, as for instance on this dumping of the Iran deal.
    Based on opposition to the Iran deal, which we dealt with extensively when it was on the table, and not support of Trump as such.

    Or so I would imagine. I would not presume to speak for @Macduff without his permission.
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    America will look like it always has. Just with angrier people.

    Really all hes doing is pissing people off.

    Internationally, The US is too big to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Macduff is sometimes a vociferous defender of Trump, as for instance on this dumping of the Iran deal; and he has also been a defender of the torture policies of the Bush/Cheney administration. Call him a conservative who sometimes leaves his thinking cap at home.
    I wouldnt say that Macduff doesnt like Trump at all. But even McCain who hates Trump has said some nice things about him. Macduff seems more like a McCain type of guy. Not sure but just thats what I gather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Based on opposition to the Iran deal, which we dealt with extensively when it was on the table, and not support of Trump as such.

    Or so I would imagine. I would not presume to speak for @Macduff without his permission.
    But remember 47 GOP senators wrote that letter back in what 2015? decrying the Iran deal. McCain being the most prominent one against it. So its not really a Trump thing, I think most republicans have been against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    America will look like it always has. Just with angrier people.

    Really all he’s doing is pissing people off.

    Internationally, The US is too big to fail.
    People were pretty damn angry in 2008. With Bush/Cheney wars and the massive recession. Saw some of my right leaning friends campaigning for Obama. Yet 8 years later they voted for Trump. I am beginning to think politics is like childbirth, it creates a sort of amnesia and people forget and want more of the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I wouldnt say that Macduff doesnt like Trump at all. But even McCain who hates Trump has said some nice things about him. Macduff seems more like a McCain type of guy. Not sure but just thats what I gather.
    More like a Ben Shapiro "But Gorsuch" type. Not a fan. But as a conservative, I'll take what I get on the policy stuff. I'm never going to be one of those people who posts pictures of Trump hugging Jesus on Facebook. I know he's a scumbag. But I'll take the tax cuts regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Based on opposition to the Iran deal, which we dealt with extensively when it was on the table, and not support of Trump as such.

    Or so I would imagine. I would not presume to speak for @Macduff without his permission.
    Correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I mean, Putin too appealed to ignorant nationalism, xenophobia, and racism for public support, just like Trump... But Trump, thank God, has not actually gone so far as to blow up sleeping families in their own homes...
    Well, not in this country anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    My issue is this: I've yet to meet a critical-thinking conservative. There's very little thinking, and a great deal of reacting. I want them to THINK. I want them to really look at what they want, and see where it leads. Extrapolate.

    That never happens.
    That is so true. They simply never think things all the way through. Plus, they don't recognize themselves as part of the wider society and that the state of that society affects their own lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    No, actually, you didn't. No thought went into your response, you gave no indication of what you thought a Christian nation would look like, etc.

    You answered with all the gravity you use for every other question on the board.

    I'll continue waiting for a conservative who can answer openly and honestly.
    Really, he did.
    In the only way possible for him.
    He never puts an thoughts into any of his posts, he's a one-line troll with no purpose but to hope he can rile up some folks here with stupidity.
    You must know this by now.

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