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    What will America look like

    This is me speaking in all honesty and sincerity. Do not accuse me of hysteria or hyperbole.

    I hope you will return the favor and just talk, instead of reacting.

    This is my post from the broken Iran deal thread.

    "Is anybody else wondering what hell he is going to unleash on us when we have no allies left and there is no one to protect or defend us? I figure the prison-for-pay complex will house all the undesirables that he canít keep out or ship back to their country of origin. Thereís already a pretty good start on that.

    There will probably be separate prisons for LGBTQ.

    I wonder where they will put the people who wonít Pledge Allegiance to the one true God.

    I donít think we will be killed, thereís no money in that. But I will be absolutely unfazed if the prison thing happens.

    PS: donít forget to toss in The Handmaids Tale."

    My equation is approximately:

    What he's done thus far + what you want him to do = what a "Christian Nation" looks like.

    Protections have already been removed for the lesser among us.

    He's already made hate 'okay,' so people who 'look different' can be attacked, both physically and verbally.

    Women's rights being eroded actually pre-date him, with all the closing of Planned Parenthood locations and attempts to reverse Roe v. Wade.

    I will once again remind you that I hope you will answer sincerely: What does a Christian Nation look like to you. No gay marriage? No gay relationships? No gays, period. Conversion therapy for all?

    Nobody living "in sin." People can only live together if they're married? How far does the government intrude, when said government is based on religion?

    No abortions, even to save the life of the mother? Even after tests indicate she will give birth to a monster without a brain? Or a baby who will live in unending pain for the very short life span it has with such a disease?

    No food stamps, no helping the anyone, ever?

    People who can't afford insurance - they just die? Emergency rooms aren't forced to treat them?

    Homeless should be in one of the prisons I mentioned above, but the name should be changed to reflect that they are being warehoused due to lack of funds. What happens to the children of the homeless? Do they go to be warehoused with their parents?

    There's a lot to think about, but I have to go to work.


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    You think Trump can or even wants to undo decades of repopulating the country, Christianity is being moved to the side line. Critical Theory is well entrenched. You have nothing to panic over. LGBTQ is here to stay. Boy / girl identity will be replaced with some other nonsense. Women will continue to kill off their offspring. Your progressive paradise isn't going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    You think Trump can or even wants to undo decades of repopulating the country, Christianity is being moved to the side line. Critical Theory is well entrenched. You have nothing to panic over. LGBTQ is here to stay. Boy / girl identity will be replaced with some other nonsense. Women will continue to kill off their offspring. Your progressive paradise isn't going anywhere.
    He is already making these changes. Further, I did ask what your version of a Christian nation would be. Roe v Wade is being eroded. Planned Parenthoods are closing across the nation. Everything I said in the OP addresses the changes that have occurred and are currently occurring.

    Trump just said Saturday night that he wants the borders closed completely.

    What more do you want him to do? What do you want this country to be?

    They are already, as announced yesterday, separating parents from their children. What should happen to the parents. What should happen to the children?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...arated-n872081

    Adults charged with illegal entry will be turned over to U.S. marshals and sent directly to federal court. Their children will be transferred to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, part of the Department of Health and Human Services, which refers them to relatives in the U.S. or to shelters run by private organizations.

    The Department of Homeland Security says 700 children have been separated from their parents since the fiscal year began last October.
    Why don't they just send them back? I mean, granted they will die there but that's just how things are.

    As you can see from the quote, the kids are staying. For how long? Doesn't that negate "get them all out of here?"
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    But can Trump really do all these things, by himself, as President? does the US Presidency have those kinds of powers?

    I know Putin, for example, can make life-changing decisions for Russia, and does all the fucking time, all by himself. For example, it is said he decided, all of his own, to annex Crimea from Ukraine. And to go into Syria.

    But that's how a dictatorship works, one man rules and decides everything


    In the US, on the other hand, there are all kinds of democratic checks and balances. The Congress and Senate; the courts; a free and independent press; etc.

    Not to mention a lot of critically thinking people who would go out and protest unjust laws and such created by the government. Millions of Americans already fought for civil rights once, decades ago, in the streets, and won. I am sure, if necessary, their children now could do it again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    But can Trump really do all these things, by himself, as President? does the US Presidency have those kinds of powers?
    Not legally, no. But if the governmental checks and balances by Congress and the courts do not work because his supporters carry out his wishes anyway, then there is a constitutional crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    He is already making these changes. Further, I did ask what your version of a Christian nation would be. Roe v Wade is being eroded. Planned Parenthoods are closing across the nation. Everything I said in the OP addresses the changes that have occurred and are currently occurring.

    Trump just said Saturday night that he wants the borders closed completely.

    What more do you want him to do? What do you want this country to be?

    They are already, as announced yesterday, separating parents from their children. What should happen to the parents. What should happen to the children?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...arated-n872081



    Why don't they just send them back? I mean, granted they will die there but that's just how things are.

    As you can see from the quote, the kids are staying. For how long? Doesn't that negate "get them all out of here?"
    They are in the comforting and caring hands of Mexico. Close the border. WE keep repeating the same folly. If lib women lose the right to kill their kids , that would be tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    But can Trump really do all these things, by himself, as President? does the US Presidency have those kinds of powers?

    I know Putin, for example, can make life-changing decisions for Russia, and does all the fucking time, all by himself. For example, it is said he decided, all of his own, to annex Crimea from Ukraine. And to go into Syria.

    But that's how a dictatorship works, one man rules and decides everything


    In the US, on the other hand, there are all kinds of democratic checks and balances. The Congress and Senate; the courts; a free and independent press; etc.

    Not to mention a lot of critically thinking people who would go out and protest unjust laws and such created by the government. Millions of Americans already fought for civil rights once, decades ago, in the streets, and won. I am sure, if necessary, their children now could do it again...
    We have to fight again. We are fighting again. We SHOULD have hit the streets when Mitch refused the Garland hearing.

    Trump is doing the propaganda thing, with the rallies and the repetition. He is doing everything he can to take down journalists and free speech. The House and Senate are doing absolutely nothing to stop him.

    I appreciate Thor posting, but I still want to know

    A) what Trump has done that we find abhorrent that the far right is fine with, and

    B) what they still want to see him do in the name of a "Christian nation."
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    They are in the comforting and caring hands of Mexico. Close the border. WE keep repeating the same folly. If lib women lose the right to kill their kids , that would be tragic.
    I'm not going to be derailed by your obvious lies. And you're still not answering the questions herein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    But can Trump really do all these things, by himself, as President? does the US Presidency have those kinds of powers?

    I know Putin, for example, can make life-changing decisions for Russia, and does all the fucking time, all by himself. For example, it is said he decided, all of his own, to annex Crimea from Ukraine. And to go into Syria.

    But that's how a dictatorship works, one man rules and decides everything


    In the US, on the other hand, there are all kinds of democratic checks and balances. The Congress and Senate; the courts; a free and independent press; etc.

    Not to mention a lot of critically thinking people who would go out and protest unjust laws and such created by the government. Millions of Americans already fought for civil rights once, decades ago, in the streets, and won. I am sure, if necessary, their children now could do it again...
    Further, I know you're quite young (by my standards) and you left your home country a long time ago. I assume you've been keeping a close eye from afar. Can you see Trump starting off a lot of what Putin has done to get America to that place? We're being isolated, for starters - and that's kind of a doozy. We've never been in this place in my entire life, and I'll be sixty in June.

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    I really hope more conservatives will weigh in.

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