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    I invite you to elaborate on this 'interesting' thought.
    Trump said he wanted to pull troops from Syria, that led to a "chemical attack".

    Some maneuvers were made and some NATO allies wanting the war to continue said they would attack without trump, which would force NATO to deal with a response.

    So, trump accepted a strike on "Assad", I don't know what was targeted, but it was something nobody in the know expected. There was stunned silence the next day in us media, in Syria there was renewed strength for pro-Assad factions, and a week or so after top 5 Isis leaders were captured.

    Anyway, had trump not played the game, the U.K. / France would have hit Russian troops, forcing a retaliation and ultimately nuclear war. So, they are now a greater threat to nuclear war than the prevention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Trump said he wanted to pull troops from Syria, that led to a "chemical attack".

    Some maneuvers were made and some NATO allies wanting the war to continue said they would attack without trump, which would force NATO to deal with a response.

    So, trump accepted a strike on "Assad", I don't know what was targeted, but it was something nobody in the know expected. There was stunned silence the next day in us media, in Syria there was renewed strength for pro-Assad factions, and a week or so after top 5 Isis leaders were captured.

    Anyway, had trump not played the game, the U.K. / France would have hit Russian troops, forcing a retaliation and ultimately nuclear war. So, they are now a greater threat to nuclear war than the prevention.
    Wow. You're SERIOUSLY arguing that the UK and France WANT a nuclear war?

    You've gone completely off the deep end.

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    Wow. You're SERIOUSLY arguing that the UK and France WANT a nuclear war?

    You've gone completely off the deep end.
    Did they not say they would attack because chemical weapons blah blah blah with or without trump? More like the initial response, before the victims went on tv to say how they staged the attack. (Why trump cut funds to white helmets)

    Remember, this was days after trump promised a pullout.

    But you want my "conspiracy theory"?

    Trump announced the withdrawal as a tactic to get bad guys to expose themselves (like a chemical attack). This would "force" trump to attack Syria, trump communicated to Russia what the targets would be, and so they withdrew.

    Knowing the targets allowed all but 33 missiles to be shot down, those "smart" missiles hit their targets. (Thanks to hind sight) it seems that the target was a forward base for Isis, that were within the safe areas, and allowed legitimate resources to be funnelled out to the resistance.

    So, in one move, trump:
    - neutered Isis ability
    - appeased the bloodthirsty wanting to attack Assad
    - helping Russia in their aims to help Assad
    - appear to be against Russia by claiming to be targeting their assets

    What was the media response the next day?? Crickets. People didn't even call for his impeachment... He played a move that none of them considered and they could not back down without admitting their intentions.

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