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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    He played less golf than trump does.
    And lost more balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    And as was pointed out he did it against massive obstruction from the Republican Congress. The shibaggery of Republicans when they wouldn't even give Obama's SCOTUS nomination a hearing with a year and a half left in his Presidency was the last straw for me with the Republican party. The Republican Party is the Oligarch/Anti-America Party.
    I don't know if I can ever vote for a republican again. They have taken everything too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    And lost more balls.
    Trump also screwed more porn stars and paid more settlements for sexual harassment, assault, or general hush money.

    https://thinkprogress.org/donald-tru...-3a7ae4678b22/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_...f_Donald_Trump

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ct_allegations


    My favorite so far:
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...ts-settlements

    Before he took office, Donald Trump was involved in a truly astronomical number of lawsuits. A USA Today report published in 2016 found that there had been 3,500 legal actions filed by and against Trump and his hundreds of businesses in federal and state courts, ranging from sexual harassment to contract violations to class-actions for misleading advertising, and settled at least 100 of them.
    When it comes to fucking things up, no one can beat Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Obama who is a trash talking bully
    Wow. That's rich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    You'd have flunked debate class. You know that, right?
    She says as she can't answer what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    Yup, that's one.

    I know it wasn't Obama but didn't America fund the rebels in Afghanistan to fight the Russians for the rebels to then go on to form Al Qaeda?
    CIA funding and training was directed to the Mudja-Hadeen, and some members joined AQ much later. This claim is stupid, as it suggests that the Mudja-Hadeen morphed into AQ which is untrue, but I suppose it makes for a good smear, however it requires the listener or reader to be completely ignorant of the history to carry any weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Obama has the record for largest deficits and for most debt.

    Obama added $9.3 Trillion to the debt in his eight years.

    And, his deficits were rising again in his last year!

    What's up with THAT?
    I’d need to dig into the budget in more detail to identify why deficits were rising again in his last year, but it’s worth noting they were still less than half what we had in Bush’s last budget year, and far less than what we will have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    I don't think many in that list are successes, more like scraping the barrel.

    Also, there are pros and cons to many others, did the pros outweigh the cons? Close call on some. Not much thought was put into that list.
    In your opinion. This just shows how politics can taint even the best of presidential records to a mind that rejects the very idea that Obama was a great president who accomplished under the worst of conditions with a republican Congress that acted as a stopper. Anyone who conveniently forgets that element and judges him based on what their own party did to stop him is delusional. I'll just say he succeeded in many important areas (many shown to you on the list) and in those successes you won't understand or see any of it until it is gone. One of the highlights for me is Obamacare - there is a reason it was a first and historic passage. Another is strengthening Dodd-Frank with the Volker rule during the recession - you won't know how important that was until Trump by removal tosses us back into a recession. Saving the auto industry was hugely important to stabilize a volatile recession that was still dropping and threatening to fall even deeper into a depression. The Dreamer executive action to counter the republican Congress that forgot that the Dreamer Act was once theirs was pretty frigging wise.

    If you don't even know that your republican Congress sat on Obamacare after the rollout and THEY refused to fix any rollout flaws and you think Obama was the cause then you are a republican with blinders on. If you don't know how Obama took us from the brink of a full on Depression then you are a republican with blinders on. If you think the economy Obama stabilized is now stable after the Trump moves to undermine it you are a republican with blinders on.

    You'll realize all of this one day but today you are a republican with blinders on.
    Last edited by Minotaur; 13th June 2018 at 03:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    I'm intrigued to know what Americans on this forum think Obama did that were considered successes.

    For me, health care but the down side, I don't think he fully thought it through about the costings. But, he had a go.

    Any others? (Consider pros and cons before deciding it was a success).
    Prevented another depression. Almost tripled the stock market.Got respect all over the world for our country. Helped women with the quality. And millions were able to see doctors when they couldn’t before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    He added $9.3 Trillion to the national debt.

    Almost doubled it.

    And in only 8 years!
    Obama did halt and reverse the dire economic crisis we were mired in.

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