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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    CIA funding and training was directed to the Mudja-Hadeen, and some members joined AQ much later. This claim is stupid, as it suggests that the Mudja-Hadeen morphed into AQ which is untrue, but I suppose it makes for a good smear, however it requires the listener or reader to be completely ignorant of the history to carry any weight.
    That's another one.

    Obama isn't and wasn't ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    But of course! They're still on about Teddy Kennedy, so goes without saying.
    Oh, gee, they still talk about how Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Delano Roosevelt supposedly RUINED America, so yes, I think we can count on them bringing up both Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton for at least, oh, the next century or so.

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    I'll give credit where it's due. Knowing that Taliban forces would take shelter in or even attack US forces from Pakistan knowing that the Pakistani government was giving them a wink and a nod, I am completely cool with the decision to raid Pakistan without their permission to get Bin Laden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    CIA funding and training was directed to the Mudja-Hadeen, and some members joined AQ much later. This claim is stupid, as it suggests that the Mudja-Hadeen morphed into AQ which is untrue, but I suppose it makes for a good smear, however it requires the listener or reader to be completely ignorant of the history to carry any weight.
    The CIA funding went to training native Afghans. Bin Laden focused on recruiting foreign fighters to fight the Russians. So they were two different animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Brought our soldiers home from Iraq resulting in less flag draped caskets of our fallen. Even tho, Iraq is ghastly yet, the US tried and gave them the tools they needed to defend their country. The Iraqi government blew that one themselves.
    He didn't bring them home, he sent them to Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    I'm intrigued to know what Americans on this forum think Obama did that were considered successes.

    For me, health care but the down side, I don't think he fully thought it through about the costings. But, he had a go.

    Any others? (Consider pros and cons before deciding it was a success).
    Obamacare was a disaster and everything Obama said about it was a lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Killed the fuck out of Bin Laden.

    You mean the military did after Obama finally approved it

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Brought our soldiers home from Iraq resulting in less flag draped caskets of our fallen. Even tho, Iraq is ghastly yet, the US tried and gave them the tools they needed to defend their country. The Iraqi government blew that one themselves.
    That created ISIS and gave them power

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    He successfully decimated the democrat party.
    Horsefeathers.

    You are a blind partisan shilling for the most devisive president this nation has ever known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    The CIA funding went to training native Afghans. Bin Laden focused on recruiting foreign fighters to fight the Russians. So they were two different animals.
    Of course, but as I stated in the post, some members of the Mudja-Hadeen later joined AQ, hence the origin of the meme (you know, the old 'CIA created AQ' meme). Not all of AQ members in Afghanistan were foreign nationals.

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