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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    You should want to be coherent, that's why.
    Irrelevant.
    No. Are you?

    Why are you so angry and rude? Does what work for you as a tactic?
    That is how liberals are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    My OP was entirely fact based. Not sure why you have issue with that, unless it endangers your ideological agenda. Ah.......that's the rub; got it.
    Liberals hate it when you tell truth that reveals their lies and deceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Stating facts. Why do liberals hate this country so bad they support a bad unsecured website to set people up for identity theft?
    Naah you are just creating another one of your crazy scenarios, for those with whom you cannot argue facts.

    Evidently it's how you cope with failure. Life is not a libertarian utopia where everything works in perfect synchronization. There will always be bugs to work out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    Citation needed.

    Is that because they can't get it done on the website? *koff koff*

    Here's some background on agents assisting with ACA:
    Some don't have computers. And like filling out forms the old fashioned way. Go figure.

    Are you stating that I have to prove that there is such thing as healthcare insurance brokers? You don't see their advertizing on the TEEVEE? Too funny.
    Last edited by Panzareta; 18th October 2013 at 10:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That is how liberals are
    They all generalize. Every last one of them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    Some don't have computers. And like filling out forms the old fashioned way. Go figure.
    *meh* okay.

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    Which stuff? Facts are facts, sir.
    All the polls are showing the republicans are about as popular as pond scum since the shutdown. that includes liberal polls, Fox polls, and every poll in between. But if you wanna go on thinking a useless shutdown that cost the nation billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of jobs is gonna be your ticket to success in 2014, please do run on it.
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    The OP quotes this link:

    GOP?s nightmare come true: Obamacare more popular than ever - Salon.com

    Which then points to this link:

    http://www.democracycorps.com/attach...10%20final.pdf

    The OP then goes out of it's way to try to defame Democracy Corps (the pollster) by association.

    Sometimes, facts are very uncomfortable things. Time to serve @Ginger a nice, steaming portion of humble pie.

    In 2012, President Obama won re-election in both the Electoral College and in the National Popular Vote. In the NPV, he won by a margin of +3.86%, which is practically +4%. And since most all pollsters publish poll values in whole numbers only, the +4 would be the value to be used to compare pollster performance after the fact.

    Of the 24 national end polls released between 10/31/2012 and 11/05/2012, only one pollster of 24 predicted an Obama +4 win on election night. There was only one pollster out of 24 end polls that absolutely nailed his margin. That pollster's name:

    DEMOCRACY CORPS.


    It get's even better: The DEM CORPS poll actually showed Obama at +3.8 over Romney, so it was actually only 0.05% off (to the RIGHT, btw), which is statistically insignificant.

    In a year where even PPP (D) was too conservative on the national front, DEM CORPS absolutely nailed it like no other pollster.

    One week before, DEM CORPS also put out the results, including an average from only the battleground states, showing Obama at a composite +4 over Romney in the battlegrounds. Now, it really depends on which states you count as battlegrounds, but indeed, the average from the battlegrounds is just around +4:

    Ohio: Obama +3
    Florida: Obama +1
    Pennsylvania: Obama +5
    Colorado: Obama +5
    New Hampshire: Obama +5.5
    Iowa: Obama +6
    Nevada: Obama +7
    Wisconsin: Obama +7
    North Carolina: Romney +2


    Average: Obama +4.2

    So, even 10 days before the election, DEM CORPS also nailed the battleground states with exquisite accuracy.




    BTW, Greenburg Quinlan Rosner often pairs up with a Conservative pollster to do joint work, for instance, with Resurgent Republic (R).


    The next time a person, say, a new political hack in PH, decides to try to smear a pollster, he or she may just want to look up it's track record first before barking too loud. Again, DEM CORPS is the ONLY end-pollster of 2012 to nail Obama's national margin.

    Here, Ginger, for you:



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    huh? wut? someone say tentacles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    Naah you are just creating another one of your crazy scenarios, for those with whom you cannot argue facts.

    Evidently it's how you cope with failure. Life is not a libertarian utopia where everything works in perfect synchronization. There will always be bugs to work out.
    Here is PTIF's libertarian paradise:
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