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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    That made NO sense. Are you ill?
    Don't even try.....

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    The proof is there and I have shown it that the website does not work and is not secure
    Shhhhh....don't say anything. Let them go through identity theft. I'll be laughing my ass off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicero View Post
    As I said, no one seems to be a Republican these days... and it's really odd, when you think of it. I mean, there was certainly an abundance of them during the Bush administration, telling those of us who disagreed with them to "get out of their country." But now, not so much. We do, however, have a bumper crop of "libertarians", "conservatives", and "classical liberals" who sprang up (seemingly) overnight, once the Bush fuck ups became readily apparent, even to them.
    The establishment GOP is progressive lite and it's an embarrassment to the base, which is much more constitutionalist than their elected representatives. That's part of the reason Romney lost - they stayed home. The old guard GOP is dying by suicide and the constitutionalism are gaining ground - steadily. McCain, Graham, McConnell (etc), and that asshole Karl Rove aren't happy about that. Beohner is bending a little to save his speakership.

    Classical liberals are libertarians, so that would be redundant to mention them twice - not being critical of you, just sayin'. ant those libertarian/constitutionalists you speak of have been around for decades; just nobody acknowledged their existence.

    Funny how critics call Paul/Lee/Cruz et al the "right wing of the Republican party". No one brings up that by default, the other R's are the Left wing of the party!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicero View Post
    ah, you're not a republican...but you happily repeat their memes and support their nonsense. Got it.
    So what, incredibly transparent, fiction do you use to disguise your status from yourself?
    I do not. There's no need to be insulting, sir. I've been cordial to you. My aim is to get more libertarians in. I'm more interested in primarying our senior (republican) senator out, and put another libertarian in; our junior senator as well. We'll get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiteGuy View Post
    Still as delusional as always, eh ptif?
    Stating truths something that liberals ignore when it does not fit their rhetoric

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiteGuy View Post
    Gee, @Ginger, this is exactly what conservatives were saying during the 2012 elections - the "main-stream/lame-stream" polling has to be wrong because of it's inherent "liberal" bias.

    Dean Chambers of the right's UnSkewedPolls.com, Jim Geraghty of the conservative National Review, PJMedia (formerly Pajamas Media) and even Karl Rove all did their own research and trusted their "common sense". They all told us that the liberal polls were wrong, and that the election was going to be a landslide for Mitt Romney. We all know how that turned out, don't we?

    Those so-called "liberal" pollsters were within a point or so of the actual voting percentage, while all of the "unskewed" pollsters got it so wrong that people like Rove were having a mental meltdown on live TV when they found they were so out of synch with the rest of the country. These same conservative pundits and pollsters are currently disputing how badly the GOP/TP is doing in the polls since the government shutdown debacle, and of course we have others bashing this poll by Stan Greenberg and company on ObamaCare.

    Anyone willing to put money on who's numbers are more accurate this time? The polling companies who've been doing this kind of work for decades, and know the processes involved? Or those "unskewers" who are delusional enough to think that they can't possibly be wrong, and thus only listen to their own little echo chamber?

    You guys keep "studying it out", and using your "common sense". As for me, I'll take the old gambler's adage: the race may not always go to the swift, nor the battle to the strong - but that's the way you bet.

    There were, at the end of the day, only three pollsters who did truly piss-poor work in 2012, and none of them were liberal based:

    Gallup, which actually apologized for having fucked up the national numbers so badly, and had to even settle out of court over it for having deliberately cooked the books.

    Rasmussen, which missed 6 of 12 battleground states.

    Wenzel, a ragtag nutbag RW pollster in bed with WND. Missed Ohio by 6 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    That is true. Anyone with a brain distanced themselves from the Republican establishment.

    And now suddenly the same people who distanced themselves are your enemies? Go figure.
    He never called them his enemies. You did that. But he is right: all of a sudden, they are way too chickenshit to actually come out and say that they are Republicans. Sad, really sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Don't even try.....

    Apparently, Ginger does not realize that his or her gender here in PH is totally unimportant. Gender plays no role when it comes to ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    That is true. Anyone with a brain distanced themselves from the Republican establishment.

    And now suddenly the same people who distanced themselves are your enemies? Go figure.
    Funny thing is that I don't have any enemies. I certainly don't have enemies on an internet forum. You see, I believe that people can be misguided and wrong, have a disagreement of opinion, and not be enemies. If you think that you DO have such enemies, that does indeed speak volumes...about you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You are fooling yourself if you think this was a victory for anybody
    so what you're saying is, the democrats won.

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