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    Racism and Trump's Election

    I know at least 5 people, IRL, who voted for Trump who are financially stable with little worry on that front. They voted for him because they liked it that he allows them to be less PC. I know these people very well. It's about the racism and xenophobia for them. It had nothing to do with the economy or jobs for these people. And I see what they post on FB everyday. It's about race for them and a longing for whites to reassert their cultural dominance.

    The major narrative surrounding November’s historic election focused on voters’ racial attitudes, and for good reason. Trump supporters were relentlessly depicted as racists, and the study confirmed that suspicion.

    “Since 1988, we’ve never seen such a clear correspondence between vote choice and racial perceptions,” Thomas Wood wrote in his Washington Post analysis. “The biggest movement was among those who voted for the Democrat, who were far less likely to agree with attitudes coded as more racially biased.”


    The Post concluded, “Racial attitudes made a bigger difference in electing Trump than authoritarianism.”


    The current American National Election Study ultimately served as proof of what many left-wingers have been saying all along.
    Liberals were right: Racism played a larger role in Trump?s win than income and authoritarianism - Salon.com

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    Nate Silver discussed this last summer. It was one of his lines of thought as to how Trump could win. He said he could win the northern tier because its older and whiter. Also not very friendly to female politicians. If I had to guess, it had more to do with it than Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Nate Silver discussed this last summer. It was one of his lines of thought as to how Trump could win. He said he could win the northern tier because its older and whiter. Also not very friendly to female politicians. If I had to guess, it had more to do with it than Russia.
    I know racism was a major component for a fact. And Comey's antics - especially at the last minute - were bigger ingredients than the Russians. I think Comey caused enough people to not turn out at all in states like Wisconsin and Michigan or turned voters toward Trump. Which isn't to say the Russians didn't have an effect at all. The DNC fiasco and the drip, drip, drip of the info the Russians leaked to Wikileaks certainly didn't help. IMO, Hillary could have overcome the Russian's antics. Racism and Comey were much bigger elements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I know racism was a major component for a fact. And Comey's antics - especially at the last minute - were bigger ingredients than the Russians. I think Comey caused enough people to not turn out at all in states like Wisconsin and Michigan or turned voters toward Trump. Which isn't to say the Russians didn't have an effect at all. The DNC fiasco and the drip, drip, drip of the info the Russians leaked to Wikileaks certainly didn't help. IMO, Hillary could have overcome the Russian's antics. Racism and Comey were much bigger elements.
    I think Russia had a much smaller effect. Most people don't know what WikiLeaks is or that Russia was involved. It really wasn't huge news until after other than for us wonks. But they did hear Trumps message on immigration, the wall and the visa system. All the Trump supporters I know IRL, voted for him solely based on those reasons. Like you said, they were fairly comfortable and still voted for him. All the exit polling coming out of the Midwest showed a lot of voters who feared immigrants coming in and taking their jobs.

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    Some are calling for the Democrats to pander to those same voters. I don't really see how they can accomplish that without alienating the majority of their natural electoral base. Those folks don't vote for policy positions. The only way to motivate them is by sounding the same dog whistles that Trump employed in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Some are calling for the Democrats to pander to those same voters. I don't really see how they can accomplish that without alienating the majority of their natural electoral base. Those folks don't vote for policy positions. The only way to motivate them is by sounding the same dog whistles that Trump employed in 2016.
    The problem is now those states are seen as "up for grab." So both parties will go there and try to win them over. Which is why the big rallies there this whole week with the DNC. With the electoral college vote, those states will probably get more notoriety than they should in the next election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    The problem is now those states are seen as "up for grab." So both parties will go there and try to win them over. Which is why the big rallies there this whole week with the DNC. With the electoral college vote, those states will probably get more notoriety than they should in the next election.
    That's hardly news. Thanks to the electoral college, swing states are the only states that really matter in a presidential election. Thing is, nobody knows beforehand when a new "swing state" will emerge.
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    Mark Arum, a radio DJ on WSB radio in Atlanta, said (during a radio broadcast) that he wanted to be able to tell his children he voted for the first black president. So, Obama's ONLY qualification was the color of his skin. Millions, especially blacks, voted for Obama merely on the fact that he was black (sic.)

    If whites pick their president using the same criteria, they are "racist." My ONLY and I mean ONLY complaint is that the Trumpeteers have such questionable moral and ethical standards that they cannot simply admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorme View Post
    Mark Arum, a radio DJ on WSB radio in Atlanta, said (during a radio broadcast) that he wanted to be able to tell his children he voted for the first black president. So, Obama's ONLY qualification was the color of his skin. Millions, especially blacks, voted for Obama merely on the fact that he was black (sic.)

    If whites pick their president using the same criteria, they are "racist." My ONLY and I mean ONLY complaint is that the Trumpeteers have such questionable moral and ethical standards that they cannot simply admit it.
    So why do the majority of blacks reject Ben Carson or Alan Keyes?

    I didn't say people voted for Trump because he's white. They voted for him because he validates their racism and gives them permission to be un-PC. There are black conservatives that many of these people like as well because they have the same criticisms of people of color that these voters do. It helps them justify their racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    So why do the majority of blacks reject Ben Carson or Alan Keyes?
    Well according to many Democrats, the answer would be that they are Uncle Toms, i.e. 'race traitors.'

    Actually, many rural blacks are actually quite conservative. They tend to vote Democrat, because the Dems pander to them.

    No one has yet demonstrated this "racism" that is being attributed to Trump.

    How is Trump a racisist?
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