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  • yes others are more emboldened.

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    It's a statistical, well known fact that doesn't even require me to post a link..

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    the most violence group in America are right-wing extremist.
    And what violence are they committing?

    Just parroting the false talking points from the fake news MSM is not enough.

    Normal thinking Americans know the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    And what violence are they committing?

    Just parroting the false talking points from the fake news MSM is not enough.

    Normal thinking Americans know the truth.
    Still, their numbers are tiny in relation to the mainstream political left. And, say experts, it's misleading for right-wing groups to suggest that the Antifa are more violent than right-wing extremists.

    "The far left is very active in the United States, but it hasn't been particularly violent for some time," says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.

    He says the numbers between the groups don't compare.

    "In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says.
    Fact Check: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising? : NPR

    The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly avarage of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly avarage of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trumpís election.
    Data my team collected at the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point show that the significant growth in far-right violence in recent years is happening at the base of the iceberg. While the main reasons for that are still not clear, it is important to remember that changes in societal norms are usually reflected in behavioral changes. Hence, it is more than reasonable to suspect that extremist individuals engage in such activities because they sense that their views are enjoying growing social legitimacy and acceptance, which is emboldening them to act on their bigotry.
    Homegrown Terrorism and Why the Threat of Right-Wing Extremism Is Rising in America
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    And what violence are they committing?
    *ahem*


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    It is irrelevant how many fake news stories you post.

    The normal thinking American voters are watching Black Lies Matter call for the death of innocent LEO's and white people.

    They are watching LEO's being assassinated in the streets, innocent white people being murdered in the name of Black Lies Matter.

    They are watching Antifa shut down free speech by beating the hell out of innocent Americans participating in the American political process.

    And, they are voting accordingly as evidenced by Trump's victory and the Democrats holding less seats than they have held in nearly 100 years.

    That's reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    What about them?

    Where are they?

    Who are they?

    What power do they have?

    Other than being a figment in the imagination of so many liberals?

    Who is going around the Country beating the hell out of Americans for practicing their Free Speech Rights?

    That would be the leftist group Antifa.

    Who is calling for and getting the murders of innocent white people and LEO's?

    That would be Black Lies Matter.

    The racist groups on the left are far more dangerous.

    Who cares what a bunch of nazi wannabes think.

    They have no power, they have no voting block, they have no numbers ......

    They exist solely in the weak minds of liberals.
    Educate yourself ...there are almost 1000 hate groups being monitored. So sad that you reverse bigotry. Those who fight neo nazis to you are the bigots. The neo nazis are the good guys
    Remember they didn't think it was possible to have a holocaust either...listen to the survivors of the Holocaust because they didn't believe what could happen. Being silent is being complicit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Educate yourself ...there are almost 1000 hate groups being monitored. So sad that you reverse bigotry. Those who fight neo nazis to you are the bigots. The neo nazis are the good guys
    Remember they didn't think it was possible to have a holocaust either...listen to the survivors of the Holocaust because they didn't believe what could happen. Being silent is being complicit
    Your fear of these so called hate groups is delusional.

    They have no power, hell short of just a few at a rare rally, they have no presence.

    In the real world .... Americans are watching the rise of violent and murderous leftist groups like Antifa and Black Lies Matter nearly every month and are voting accordingly.

    The difference is the lies of the fake news MSM and what is really happening in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Your fear of these so called hate groups is delusional.

    They have no power, hell short of just a few at a rare rally, they have no presence.

    In the real world .... Americans are watching the rise of violent and murderous leftist groups like Antifa and Black Lies Matter nearly every month and are voting accordingly.

    The difference is the lies of the fake news MSM and what is really happening in reality.
    what evidence to you have that your views are shared outside of an extremist right-wing minority in America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    This is just my opinion here, but it seems people are more emboldened in general to say or do whatever comes to mind. Lack of inhibition has become the norm, and it goes beyond issues of race.
    I think social media began that, speaking ones mind without caring or repercussion. People go on anonymously and it carries over into real life. People hear and say stuff that may or not be true and get defensive about due to what they see on social media. I think its made humans quite a bit more uncaring and crass. As for racists, I do think that's given them a platform as well, prior they may have felt alone but now they connect with others like them and they feel emboldened by how many there are out there. They get on their FBs, forums etc and spew their nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I think social media began that, speaking ones mind without caring or repercussion. People go on anonymously and it carries over into real life. People hear and say stuff that may or not be true and get defensive about due to what they see on social media. I think its made humans quite a bit more uncaring and crass. As for racists, I do think that's given them a platform as well, prior they may have felt alone but now they connect with others like them and they feel emboldened by how many there are out there. They get on their FBs, forums etc and spew their nonsense.
    There's always an increase whenever anonymity comes into play. When people don't have to deal with the ramifications of their words they remove their filters.

    What were seeing is a bit different though. Social media was around prior to Trump. People are more emboldened now because of how he and his subordinates behaved during the campaign, and then winning the election validated that in their minds. I know this because I work with some of them. They didn't speak about this stuff just a couple of years ago. It's changed.
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