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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    Sounds an awful like how today's liberals treat conservatives or talk about Trump.
    Kids are not born with a political identity or if they support a President Trump, that is not due to their birth.
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    so, first things first. Being subjected to racism is a traumatic event for kids growing up black in America. It doesn't matter if they grew up in a time after Jim Crow, or when whites could rape, murder, or demoralize them with impunity. The life, in of itself, is a traumatic event. And like any other traumatic event it leaves them with a form of PTSD. That said. It can also be a traumatic event for anyone witnessing it who doesn't happen to be black. We hear stories all the time of friends who went shopping with their African American friends and were shocked to see how they were treated. Or stories about being in a car when their African American friends were stopped by the police. Or see videos of cops shooting an African American unarmed youth. These events are traumatic to behold regardless of what race you happen to be. Even, believe or not, for the perpetrators of racism and/or bigotry.

    That's right.

    Bet, you weren't expecting that angle were you? But, think about it. What sort of person does it take to treat another human being in a demoralizing manner simply because of their race? That sort of person has to have suffered some sort of trauma in the past. Deep inside, they must know that the person they're dehumanizing is a fellow human being. Just like them. It's not officially recognized as a mental illness. But, it sure as hell has all the markers of one. Anyone that would treat a another human being with that kind of cruelty has to be suffering from a severe lack of respect for themselves.

    Among the wors of these is the so-called "closet racist". This is a person who , by all outward appearances, doesn't appear to be racist. But, deep inside, they nonetheless secretly identify with the hardcore racist. Deep inside they hear the call of racism lurking somewhere deep beneath the surface. Just waiting for the right movement to reveal itself (typically, with plausible deniability). Or they might even let it all out in privacy. Or among those who think the way they do. Who can assure them that they really aren't racist. It's an inner racial turmoil eating away at them....

    To be continued. Cuz, we have to get back to the topic at hand.

    So many of these things are the obstacles that black kids in American have to navigate in their quest to be treated as equals; in their quest to become "whole". More often than not they are vulnerable to the majority population. Who, although mostly sympathetic, lacks a true understanding of their plight. Even among those who think they do.

    Black parents invariably have to have that "talk" with their kids. Usually, at an early age, because kids see and hear things that they need a guiding hand to explain, at a very early age. Because, except only in very rare cases , sooner or later, their kids are going to encounter racial slurs, racial resentments, racial animus, or just plain straight up racial hatred. All parents do their best to prepare their kids for this real world. Sure enough. And each child is unique in their own right.

    But, no matter how much parents try to prepare their kids, no one can really be prepared for when it's first happens. Nor, can anyone explain what it feels like to anyone that hasn't experienced it. You think you might know. But , you don't. You have no Earthly fucking clue. Nor can you know what it's like to have to be aware each and every moment that it might happen, if only in the corner of your mind. Or how it feels to have let your guard down and to be hit with racism, a racial slur, racial animus , resentment, or hate, unexpectedly. Especially, when it is coming from that so-called "close racist". Who has succeeded in convincing you they understand. Because, like vicious, vindictive snakes in the grass, they've waited for the right time , and the right circumstances, to strike.
    The saddest part ive seen is that too many Americans, of all races, believe the struggle is over. I see too many people who seem to think that all discrimination is over or a thing of the past...since it is not as prevalent or ...In Your Face as in the past.

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    Many problems are self induced by the choices they make. You decide if you go to school, study hard, choices in friends, sexually active to the point of getting knocked up. Joining a gang, using drugs, start a life in crime and police record to the point where you are unable to get employment. Choices you make set your path in life. You can be offended, play the victim or seek opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Bias and malicious discrimination are widespread and cover dozens of categories.

    It is more severe in niche groups with persistent forms of bias.

    While malicious discrimination against blacks in the USA is the very worst form,it is not the only one.

    In fact, niche groups are trying to create such malicious discrimination to promote their own interests.

    In ALL cases, calling attention to your outrage over being discriminated against is only useful to the victim up to the point of legal remedies.

    Living in a constant state of awareness of your outrage is no way to live.

    And that's my opinion.

    For example, preoccupation with media bias against conservatives is useless.

    Getting to the bottom of why (or if) the IRS targeted conservative groups for hassling and delays is a form of seeking legal remedies.
    You make it sound as if black awareness of white American racism was a choice. It isn't. It's necessary self-care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    The saddest part ive seen is that too many Americans, of all races, believe the struggle is over. I see too many people who seem to think that all discrimination is over or a thing of the past...since it is not as prevalent or ...In Your Face as in the past.
    Pretending racism is over is a white privilege. Not even the richest, most popular, most accomplished black Americans have that luxury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Okay name me 3 black serial killers (don't use the internet) I can name 1

    Ted Bundy
    JW Gacey
    albert desalvo
    Jeffery daumer

    all white this is off the top of my head.
    Don't go by "the top of your head." Numbers are available. Prior to the 1990s, most U.S. serial killers were white. Since then, most U.S. serial killers have been black. (Source, page 6)

    Curiously, the number of female serial killers used to be MUCH higher. In the early 1900s, the percentage of female serial killers was around 30%, and it has since dropped to 6%. (Source, page 8)

    Worth noting - over 67% of the world's serial killers are from the United States (Source, page 14)

    Also, the most common method of killing by serial killers? Firearms - 42.96%. Strangling comes in at a remote second place; 21.71%. (Source, page 19)

    Lots of stats here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Pretending racism is over is a white privilege.
    And what do we call the irrebuttable presumption that white people are inherently racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    Sounds an awful like how today's liberals treat conservatives or talk about Trump.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Many problems are self induced by the choices they make. You decide if you go to school, study hard, choices in friends, sexually active to the point of getting knocked up. Joining a gang, using drugs, start a life in crime and police record to the point where you are unable to get employment. Choices you make set your path in life. You can be offended, play the victim or seek opportunity.
    Every kid's situation is comprised of his unique circumstances. Those people who are suffering from poverty, living in drug infested areas, etc... they don't have the same choices presented to them as kids who live in better areas, with more money, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Don't go by "the top of your head." Numbers are available. Prior to the 1990s, most U.S. serial killers were white. Since then, most U.S. serial killers have been black. (Source, page 6)

    Curiously, the number of female serial killers used to be MUCH higher. In the early 1900s, the percentage of female serial killers was around 30%, and it has since dropped to 6%. (Source, page 8)

    Worth noting - over 67% of the world's serial killers are from the United States (Source, page 14)

    Also, the most common method of killing by serial killers? Firearms - 42.96%. Strangling comes in at a remote second place; 21.71%. (Source, page 19)

    Lots of stats here.
    Arrests and convictions don't tell the whole story. Most serial killers choose victims of the same race, and black homicide victims are far less likely to be on a solved list.

    It's unusual for the police to even connect disappearances and homicides as potentially the work of one killer, if the victims are black.

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