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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    race.
    staaaaaaahp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    The question is, do you?
    Of course I do, it's not that difficult of a concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    oh, I know what it means alright. Just don't think it makes a hell of a lot of sense. How would you go about proving such a thing?
    Once again:

    "The problem with the fractionation by group identity is that it's endless. There's no way of ensuring equality across groups because there is an infinite number of groups. You can fragment group identity all the way down to the level of the individual. Which is exactly what you should do."

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    Yeah but at least he was a happy drunk. Not sure if it’s true, but one of the funniest Churchill quotes I’ve heard was when a lady told him “You sir, are drunk!”. To which Winston replied “Yes I am. But in the morning I will be sober whereas you will still be ugly”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    @the watchman if you didn't understand my post you surely won't understand this but here is the problem with identity politics in a nutshell:

    "The problem with the fractionation by group identity is that it's endless. There's no way of ensuring equality across groups because there is an infinite number of groups. You can fragment group identity all the way down to the level of the individual. Which is exactly what you should do."
    Right on.

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    If you define "their" group as political (as opposed to racial) you just defined partisanship.
    Some people do have identity beliefs associated with politics, but most people don't. Most people define themselves by other factors. "Race" is one of them, but there are many others. There was an "Irish vote" and an "Italian vote" and a "Jewish vote" or a "Catholic vote" long before there was a "black vote."

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    seriously. Please explain this concept to me. What is it and why does it get such a bad rep?
    It is double-speak since there are no politics without identities.
    Last edited by BitterPill; 20th February 2018 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    There are no politics without identity, so it seems superfluous to me to to even include the identity modifier with politics. After all, the people who use the term are practicing identity politics by their own definition, yet in reality it's just politics.

    It reminds me of the double-speak term intellectual dishonesty since all dishonesty is, by nature, intellectual.
    Last edited by BitterPill; 20th February 2018 at 06:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    There are no politics without identity, so it seems superfluous to me to to even include the identity modifier with politics. After all, the people who use the term are practicing identity politics by their own definition, yet in reality it's just politics.

    It reminds me of the double-speak term intellectual dishonesty since all dishonesty is, by nature, intellectual.
    Wrong.

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