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    A world in which there are no racists, aka: very fine people

    I see people all the time on the internet, saying racist things, having racist attitudes, and then melting when they are called out for being racist.

    The most recent discussion I've had involved being told Trump is not a racist. So as far as I can tell? There are no racists. The people saying the racist things, believing the racist lies, are not racists. The tiki-torch dudes? Very fine people. Guy who drove his car into the protesters and killed a woman? Most assuredly not a racist.

    So I would love it (you don't hear a note of sarcasm, you hear an entire fucking symphony) if someone would explain to me what a racist is, and why there actually aren't any in the world today.

    Thanks in advance.

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    It's the alternative facts that appear to be reality now. If you are referring to social cons/WNs, then whenever you point something out as being racist, like Barr's tweet, then they will respond with "freedom of speech", or attempt to create a false equivalency about someone on the left doing the same thing. If you point out something like police brutality and black people, the same ideology will attempt to deflect about crime rate or some other squirrel in order to change the topic. If you talk about the history of racism in the country blacks experienced, then the same ideology will say it's time to get over it, while saying never forget about the holocaust or 9/11.

    There's a pattern that ideology follows and it is more obvious now that their true feelings come out when they have some anonymity behind a keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I see people all the time on the internet, saying racist things, having racist attitudes, and then melting when they are called out for being racist.

    The most recent discussion I've had involved being told Trump is not a racist. So as far as I can tell? There are no racists. The people saying the racist things, believing the racist lies, are not racists. The tiki-torch dudes? Very fine people. Guy who drove his car into the protesters and killed a woman? Most assuredly not a racist.

    So I would love it (you don't hear a note of sarcasm, you hear an entire fucking symphony) if someone would explain to me what a racist is, and why there actually aren't any in the world today.

    Thanks in advance.
    Who said there aren't any in the world? They make up all cross sections of society. I presume you are looking at target groups that are racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I see people all the time on the internet, saying racist things, having racist attitudes, and then melting when they are called out for being racist.

    The most recent discussion I've had involved being told Trump is not a racist. So as far as I can tell? There are no racists. The people saying the racist things, believing the racist lies, are not racists. The tiki-torch dudes? Very fine people. Guy who drove his car into the protesters and killed a woman? Most assuredly not a racist.

    So I would love it (you don't hear a note of sarcasm, you hear an entire fucking symphony) if someone would explain to me what a racist is, and why there actually aren't any in the world today.

    Thanks in advance.
    Ms. Boop,

    To a liberal, a racist is anybody who doesn't agree 100% lock-goose step with them.

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    Bullshit, a racist is someone that denigrates an entire race, or attributes certain negative traits to an entire race based upon the acts of a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I see people all the time on the internet, saying racist things, having racist attitudes, and then melting when they are called out for being racist.

    The most recent discussion I've had involved being told Trump is not a racist. So as far as I can tell? There are no racists. The people saying the racist things, believing the racist lies, are not racists. The tiki-torch dudes? Very fine people. Guy who drove his car into the protesters and killed a woman? Most assuredly not a racist.

    So I would love it (you don't hear a note of sarcasm, you hear an entire fucking symphony) if someone would explain to me what a racist is, and why there actually aren't any in the world today.

    Thanks in advance.
    On the board I was posting at before this, there was effectively a rule that conservatives could call anything they want "racist," but if a liberal did so, it would result in a temporary ban. Thus, why I left. The result of that double-standard is that, for purposes of that board, "racist" meant "someone who brings up race in a way that hurts right-wing feelings," whereas actually asserting the inherent inferiority of non-white people had nothing to do with racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I see people all the time on the internet, saying racist things, having racist attitudes, and then melting when they are called out for being racist.

    The most recent discussion I've had involved being told Trump is not a racist. So as far as I can tell? There are no racists. The people saying the racist things, believing the racist lies, are not racists. The tiki-torch dudes? Very fine people. Guy who drove his car into the protesters and killed a woman? Most assuredly not a racist.

    So I would love it (you don't hear a note of sarcasm, you hear an entire fucking symphony) if someone would explain to me what a racist is, and why there actually aren't any in the world today.

    Thanks in advance.
    Impossible. Racism is defined by the dictionary as feeling superior over another race. We found in the UK that the left, Labour under Tony Blair, reclassified it as, "Only whites are racist if they don't embrace every race and culture on every subject".

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    Acts of violence against people of color has risen greatly since Trump started running his mouth during the campaign. "Well, if they are less than human" *he said animals, everybody cheered. He did not say until THE NEXT DAY that he was only talking about that gang.* - - - , we can talk to them however we want. If they are brown, they don't belong here. If they have an accent, they don't belong here. How shall we as a single individual treat someone who we don't think belongs here? They are less than. I don't have to be humane, because they're not human."

    And that's just one piece of a huge puzzle. That's the immigrant/refugee piece. Then there is the AA/black piece. Same thinking though. A million excuses for why a kid can get shot coming back from the convenience store, or a young man for using his cell phone in his grandmother's back yard, or a twelve year-old playing in the park. Death by a thousand cuts, only every cut is a death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLglock View Post
    Bullshit, a racist is someone that denigrates an entire race, or attributes certain negative traits to an entire race based upon the acts of a few.
    I agree with this definition; might add someone who holds an animus toward an entire race, as well as someone who considers/contends their own race superior to others.

    Now I'm going to say something that might be a little uncomfortable: There absolutely are racists in this world -- people who meet the description(s) above and act accordingly. Further, there are "closet racists," as in people who meet the description(s) above but deny that they do and don't overtly act as such. Then there are people who don't meet the description(s) above but on occasion make a stereotypical observation, stick their foot in their mouth, or commit what we might call a "micro-aggression." Not out of animus or intent to cause harm, but because they speak before thinking. I think there are very few people who genuinely can claim not to be at all conscious of race and never to consider it one way or the other.

    I believe that the term itself is sometimes used too broadly (because it's a very effective way to silence/marginalize), and that murks up the waters a bit. I don't think many people relish being called a "racist," but, in particular, people who genuinely don't harbor animus toward people of other races but get lumped into the category of "racist" because they may align politically or on some issues with those who do, tend to bristle at the label. And then actual racism gets a pass while everyone argues over whether something which COULD be but really could NOT be, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Then there are people who don't meet the description(s) above but on occasion make a stereotypical observation, stick their foot in their mouth, or commit what we might call a "micro-aggression." Not out of animus or intent to cause harm, but because they speak before thinking.
    Would not someone who has such an unconsidered, automatic reaction be a racist - just one who does not think about it very much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    I believe that the term itself is sometimes used too broadly (because it's a very effective way to silence/marginalize), and that murks up the waters a bit. I don't think many people relish being called a "racist," but, in particular, people who genuinely don't harbor animus toward people of other races but get lumped into the category of "racist" because they may align politically or on some issues with those who do, tend to bristle at the label. And then actual racism gets a pass while everyone argues over whether something which COULD be but really could NOT be, etc.
    Indeed, I have heard it asserted that only whites can be (and are) racist, and that non-whites cannot be. It was further stated in this conversation (which occurred over 10 years ago - while I was in law school) that it did not count as racism if the person holding the racist attitude had no power to use it to affect/harm someone else. It made no sense to me, and still does not. I still bristle, in fact, at being labeled "racist" just for being "white."

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