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    Roma pogroms in Ukraine

    KYIV -- Swinging axes and sledgehammers as a camera rolled, members of the far-right Azov National Druzhyna militia destroyed a Romany camp in Kyiv's Holosiyivskiy Park on June 7.

    The attack marks the second such incident by far-right vigilantes in Kyiv and the fourth in Ukraine in the past six weeks.

    The National Druzhyna, a militia formed in January by veterans of the far-right Azov Battalion, had visited the camp earlier in the day and spoken threateningly with a woman who lived there, an encounter that was filmed by the group and published on its Facebook page.

    The militia also issued an ultimatum in the Facebook post for the Roma to clear out within 24 hours or be forced out by a "mob."

    "When the police don't act, the National Druzhyna takes control of the situation," the militia wrote.

    But the militia didn't wait. Hours later, what appeared to be around two dozen nationalists returned to destroy the camp and harass the few Romany women still there.

    The attack was broadcast live on the militia's Facebook page.

    That video, which has since been removed, shows the National Druzhyna members in T-shirts adorned with the group's insignia hacking at the camp's makeshift homes with axes and hammers.

    A more complete, 12-minute clip of the nationalists' raid was eventually uploaded to YouTube by EuroMaydan, a political group born from the 2013-14 uprising of the same name.



    At one point, the militia members mock a woman and child fleeing with their belongings, asking if they planned to eat a nearby dog. "I heard you eat dogs," one of the men says. Later, another belittles a woman trying to collect belongings from the debris by suggesting her actions might be acceptable "in India, but not here."

    Near the end of the video, uniformed Ukrainian police officers appear and casually make conversation as the nationalists wind up their raid.

    With police looking on, more than a dozen of the vigilantes pose together to a cry of "Glory to the nation! Death to enemies!"

    Kyiv police spokeswoman Oksana Blyshchik told Hromadske TV the Romany group had already fled the camp when militia members arrived, which the video clearly contradicts. She added that no one had been injured and nobody had been detained.

    Late on June 7, Ukraine's National Police said in a statement that it had begun criminal proceedings in what it labeled a case of "hooliganism."

    "All active participants in this event will be identified and brought to justice," the National Police said.
    More: With Axes And Hammers, Far-Right Vigilantes Destroy Another Romany Camp In Kyiv

    I honestly raise a glass of wine every time I see reports of Azov scum being taken out by the separatists in Donbass. Those animals don't deserve to live.

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    Roma people are far from innocent themselves though. I am living next to roma people in Finland and most of them are criminals more or less.

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    Where's the "pogrom"? All I saw is a homeless camp being demolished. Developers bulldozed a squatter's camp in the woods next to the local Walmart a month or two ago and no one called it a "pogrom".

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousou View Post
    Roma people are far from innocent themselves though. I am living next to roma people in Finland and most of them are criminals more or less.
    Sounds like stereotyping to justify persecution.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Romanyism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otto Throttle View Post
    Where's the "pogrom"? All I saw is a homeless camp being demolished. Developers bulldozed a squatter's camp in the woods next to the local Walmart a month or two ago and no one called it a "pogrom".
    Was the "squatters camp" in the woods by Wal-mart destroyed legally by police or an armed mob of vigilantes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Sounds like stereotyping to justify persecution.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Romanyism
    Roma people are humans just like everybody else and I have had roma friends but roma-culture is just kind of fucked up, no offence. All roma men in my town have been in prison literally. But yeah I have nothing personal against them though.
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    Roma people have been disliked for a long time, and like any people that don't settle down in one spot, they see themselves as outsiders to native populations.
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    Romas have good and bad among them, like any other peoples. Read through this thread I wrote about Roma in Russia: Life of Gypsies in Russia

    Ukrainian ones are similar to Russian ones. But Ukrainians treat them like shit, as they treat all minorities, unless it is politically convenient to pretend to embrace them, as they now do with Crimean Tatars.

    Reality is, Ukraine is a very racist, xenophobic society. Russia has a lot of that too. But Ukraine is one a level above even them.
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    Gypsies were included with Jews in Hitler's "Final Solution"
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