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    President Trump’s former deputy campaign manager, David Bossie, told a black Democratic strategist appearing on “Fox & Friends” on Sunday that he’s out of his "cotton-picking mind.”

    Bossie and strategist Joel Payne got into a heated exchange about the rhetoric used in debating immigration and other issues during a discussion moderated by Fox News host Ed Henry.
    Ex-Trump adviser tells black Fox News*guest he's out of his 'cotton-picking mind' | TheHill

    "cotton picking mind"? Is that a thing? Cuz, it's kinda hard to keep up with modern day lexicon since Trump took office. What was once out of bounds and seen as racist is now perfectly acceptable. That's why I ask. Is telling a black man he's "out of his 'cotton picking mind' " racist? He apologized. David Bossie apologized. Ok, maybe he just misspoke. Maybe he regretted it the second it came out of his mouth. It's good he apologized. But , the clip has gone viral.
    No. I only ever heard this phrase down south, and it appeared to suggest all hands on deck during the harvest.

    OTOH, racism in the Trump administration is glaringly, undeniably obvious.
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    is it a southern phrase or something?

    Yes, it is, and it's not inherently racist. Poor white sharecroppers didn't like the back breaking labor involved in picking cotton any more than did black slaves. And so, "cotton picking" has long been a common pejorative in the south. Even after cotton picking was no longer done by hand, people still worked in cotton mills, and that was one of the most miserable jobs that a factory worker could have.

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    according to the MSNBC host it's known as a racist phrase. Have to say. The reaction on social media is pretty much the same. How anyone could sit there and pretend as if they don't get how it might be seen as racist to say that to a black man is just, well frankly, bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
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    according to the MSNBC host it's known as a racist phrase. Have to say. The reaction on social media is pretty much the same. How anyone could sit there and pretend as if they don't get how it might be seen as racist to say that to a black man is just, well frankly, bullshit.

    I know racism intimately. I grew up in the midst of it. The phrase "cotton picking" isn't a racial pejorative. I could list a few genuine racial pejoratives for you to consider, but I won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joel-pay...in-trumpworld/

    according to the MSNBC host it's known as a racist phrase. Have to say. The reaction on social media is pretty much the same. How anyone could sit there and pretend as if they don't get how it might be seen as racist to say that to a black man is just, well frankly, bullshit.
    There's never a shortage of people looking for a reason to be offended.

    It's somebody's lucky day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    I know racism intimately. I grew up in the midst of it. The phrase "cotton picking" isn't a racial pejorative. I could list a few genuine racial pejoratives for you to consider, but I won't.
    "genuine racial pejoratives"? You could list some, but you won't? What's that about? Two things I notice. First, you didn't bother to listen to the interview you just quoted. Second, you didn't address the fact that it's not at all unreasonable to see why saying that to a black person might be seen as racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    There's never a shortage of people looking for a reason to be offended.

    It's somebody's lucky day...
    that might explain why people aren't actually listening to the interview. If they did they see that Mr. Payne has moved on and wanted to put more of a emphasis on the kids that are being separated from their parents. He said he doesn't hold grudges and he's ok. The kids , however, are another story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No. I only ever heard this phrase down south, and it appeared to suggest all hands on deck during the harvest.

    OTOH, racism in the Trump administration is glaringly, undeniably obvious.
    what's the difference between a minute and a "cotton pickin minute"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
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    according to the MSNBC host it's known as a racist phrase. Have to say. The reaction on social media is pretty much the same. How anyone could sit there and pretend as if they don't get how it might be seen as racist to say that to a black man is just, well frankly, bullshit.
    "Seen as racist" by the listener, sure. Probably a phrase that should be dropped by modern speakers.

    "Intended to be racist"? Probably not, partially because Trump's associates generally do not telegraph racist insults covertly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    "Seen as racist" by the listener, sure. Probably a phrase that should be dropped by modern speakers.

    "Intended to be racist"? Probably not, partially because Trump's associates generally do not telegraph racist insults covertly.
    is it a modern phrase?

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