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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Yet St. Louis has almost double the murder rate per capita.

    Kind of revealing isn't it?
    Revealing of what? Hey, I was just born there, I didn't shoot all those people. Well, not ALL of them.
    NOW you want to talk about per capita? earlier you were just talking about sheer NUMBERS. I pointed out to YOU that there were a lot of cities more dangerous than Chicago.
    What IS the problem you people have with Chicago anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    It was live streaming the attack on Facebook that made it nearly impossible NOT to charge them with hate crimes.

    And, it was there actions that caused them to be charged with hate crimes, not their speech.

    Hate speech, is not a crime in this Country.

    At least not yet.
    Iím not aware of exactly what happened, but if you tie someone up and beat them thatís assault. Itís not a hate crime. Not in any way. Itís a crime.

    If you SAY racist things while doing it thatís a hate crime.

    What were they convicted of? This thread title says ďconvicted of hate crimeĒ so I assumed that was the case.

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    A Chicago man who was the alleged ringleader in the racially charged beating of a mentally disabled teenager that was broadcast live on Facebook pled guilty Friday to a hate crime and was sentenced to eight years in prison.
    How was this a hate crime if not based entirely on the things they said.

    Beating someone isnt a racist. What they said was racist. And he was convicted of a hate crime.

    If they didn’t say that stuff, this isn’t a hate crime. And it was. Convicted of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I’m not aware of exactly what happened, but if you tie someone up and beat them that’s assault. It’s not a hate crime. Not in any way. It’s a crime.

    If you SAY racist things while doing it that’s a hate crime.

    What were they convicted of? This thread title says “convicted of hate crime” so I assumed that was the case.
    Then you assume correct.

    These criminals attacked this disabled man because he was white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    How was this a hate crime if not based entirely on the things they said.

    Beating someone isnt a racist. What they said was racist. And he was convicted of a hate crime.

    If they didnít say that stuff, this isnít a hate crime. And it was. Convicted of it.
    Their language on video exposed their motive.

    They attacked this man because of race and they were convicted accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Revealing of what? Hey, I was just born there, I didn't shoot all those people. Well, not ALL of them.
    NOW you want to talk about per capita? earlier you were just talking about sheer NUMBERS. I pointed out to YOU that there were a lot of cities more dangerous than Chicago.
    What IS the problem you people have with Chicago anyway?
    I don't have a problem with Chicago.

    Although I do think the city did not deserve that Margret Sanger Award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Their language on video exposed their motive.

    They attacked this man because of race and they were convicted accordingly.
    Alright. Copy that.

    Roger roger.


    So. When someone commits a crime, and their motivation is hatred towards a race or gender or some “type” of person, they get convicted of the original crime (in this case assault) AND they get the additional aggravating charge of “hate crime”.


    Which is true when the victim is say .... gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Alright. Copy that.

    Roger roger.


    So. When someone commits a crime, and their motivation is hatred towards a race or gender or some “type” of person, they get convicted of the original crime (in this case assault) AND they get the additional aggravating charge of “hate crime”.


    Which is true when the victim is say .... gay.
    These criminals also plead guilty to aggravated kidnapping as well.

    And, yes hate crimes apply to gays who are attacked based on their sexual orientation.

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    Fifteen to twenty sounds better to me. This guy got off light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I don't have a problem with Chicago.

    Although I do think the city did not deserve that Margret Sanger Award.
    I did not specify YOU personally. I said "you people" as the RW conservatives that post here/

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