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    The 7/11 customer had a point (it's a stupid policy, applied to people over 40), but this does not mean it was racist. The customer was right-wrong.
    That is my point, often times they will say something is racist just because they don't like it. They don't even believe they are actually being singled out, it's just something to say to hopefully get the other person to back down or to get media attention.

    As I said, if I was ejected from the pool for wearing socks, even if Patty was being a bitch and not equally enforcing everyone else's violations, no one would care since it's not race based, and yet the same type of thing happens to white people all the time.

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    One could ask what was her motivation to ask the gentleman to leave yet not see the other rule breakers breaking the same rule.

    What if no racial issue was brought up. What if the gentleman only saw the clear double standard.

    All things equal, what is the difference? The most evident is race.
    Not really. To me and to Patty, the most evident thing is that wearing socks IN the pool is a bigger issue than hats on people at the pool that are not getting in the water. (To me, even in the water, I would not care as much about hats as socks either, regardless of race). Patty was stupid to selectively enforce, but that doesn't make it racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    That is my point, often times they will say something is racist just because they don't like it. They don't even believe they are actually being singled out, it's just something to say to hopefully get the other person to back down or to get media attention.

    As I said, if I was ejected from the pool for wearing socks, even if Patty was being a bitch and not equally enforcing everyone else's violations, no one would care since it's not race based, and yet the same type of thing happens to white people all the time.
    Black Americans experience racism every day. Some do all day long. If during their entire lives, they mistake "stupid" for "racist" once or twice, who are we to demand they exercise greater care?

    I got yelled at by a black lady I didn't know for tossing my hair back in a crowded elevator. I am 100% sure, she thought I was being micro-racist.

    Thing is, I wasn't aware anyone was behind me at all.

    So.....point being, a black American can suffer a racist insult from a white American who has been nothing more than oblivious.

    OTOH, "oblivious in public" is a headspace very few black Americans can ever "enjoy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    These kind of stories have been popping up more and more lately.

    WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. — A white man who challenged a black family’s use of a private community’s pool has not only resigned from the homeowners association board — he’s lost his job.

    Sonoco announced Friday that Adam Bloom is no longer employed by the packaging and industrial products company, saying it doesn’t condone discrimination of any kind, even if it happens outside its workplace.

    https://nypost.com/2018/07/06/white-...amily-at-pool/

    Woman loses job after 'physically assaulting black teenager for swimming at community pool'

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8429866.html

    Outcry after woman calls police on little girl selling water

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/permit-...twitter-video/

    Maybe the feel more comfortable doing these kinds of things in today's political climate?
    Did you see the video on Twitter of the Puerto Rican woman being harassed by some old white dude for wearing a shirt with a Puerto Rican flag on it? Cops standing there ignored the woman when she asked the man be made to quit bothering her?

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...46465693896704
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    He put his feet in the water with his socks on. I have read several articles with conflicting stories but one thing remains constant, PM Patty was selectively enforcing rules and was fired for that.

    I was just adding into the topic that often black people accuse racism when they don't want to follow a rule.
    On the 4th, my 7-11 said everyone had to actually physically have their ID to buy alcohol. Even if they were 80. A black woman was very upset about this and when all else failed started saying they are racist and didn't check white people's IDs, on and on. The two clerks were black, it didn't make sense, but IJS that this is a new normal go to argument.

    She may not have picked on him because he was black. It could be that socks in the pool are more offensive than hats. It wasn't smart to selectively enforce, but that doesn't make it racism.

    If she had ejected a white man for wearing socks but not others for wearing hats we wouldn't be hearing about it.
    well, that's a pretty racist statement .
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    If you're calling the police because someone's wearing socks at the pool, you maybe need to find a new hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    That is my point, often times they will say something is racist just because they don't like it. They don't even believe they are actually being singled out, it's just something to say to hopefully get the other person to back down or to get media attention.

    As I said, if I was ejected from the pool for wearing socks, even if Patty was being a bitch and not equally enforcing everyone else's violations, no one would care since it's not race based, and yet the same type of thing happens to white people all the time.
    You get to hear a lot of black people complain about racism IRL?

    Outside political meetings, I certainly don't -- but I have complained about racist speech from other customers (white) when their whisper-shouting upset me.

    A few times, since moving to Cleveland.

    I will not shop, eat, buy, etc. somewhere that white customers feel free to use that language. I expect such customers to be asked to leave and so far, they have been.

    I don't say anything about white racists in the ER, because I figure they could be demented or drugged or disorientated, etc. But that's the limit of my tolerance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Did you see the video on Twitter of the Puerto Rican woman being harassed by some old white dude for wearing a shirt with a Puerto Rican flag on it? Cops standing there ignored the woman when she asked the man be made to quit bothering her?

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...46465693896704
    Yeah, that was pretty bad as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    On the other end, some black people cry racism anytime they don't want to follow a rule. Our PM and the security guys never selectively enforce. It doesn't matter what color you are if you are wearing socks in the pool or have too many guests or don't have your card, you are leaving the pool, by police if necessary.

    I was summarily kicked out and followed home my first trip to the pool here for lacking my 'amenities card' or at least an ID with this address listed. The following me home was to make sure I lived here, because if I did not, I was in for a trespassing charge.

    Every summer, all summer, the PM and the security staff are screamed at that they are racist when enforcement is applied to black owners, tenants, or 'guests' (people that do not live here, but want to use our pool). Not all of them, of course, but enough to make every summer at the pool miserable for them.
    your story doesn't sound believable. Only an employer looking to be sued would allow that type of behavior on their property. The other tenants have a right to quiet enjoyment. That right is being violated by the people you're claiming are screaming at staff in a public area. The owners could be sued both by their employees and others at the pool. A guest can be asked to leave any time the property owner, or their agents, asks them too. If they refuse , they can be arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    your story doesn't sound believable. Only an employer looking to be sued would allow that type of behavior on their property. The other tenants have a right to quiet enjoyment. That right is being violated by the people you're claiming are screaming at staff in a public area. The owners could be sued both by their employees and others at the pool. A guest can be asked to leave any time the property owner, or their agents, asks them too. If they refuse , they can be arrested.
    Remember the black teenaged girl, wrestled to the ground by a white cop for accepting her classmate's invitation to swim at her HOA's pool?

    I can't find the story because of the PAGES AND PAGES of results for "black swimmer assaulted at pool".

    This is a very painful and weird echo from the days of Jim Crow. Apparently, most white racists believe pools and beaches are still segregated spaces.
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