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    I am not following you. What I said was that in order not to be called racist, we'd have to cease enforcement of rules for black people. Every summer, all summer, people of all types want too many guests, black and white trespassers want in, people want to smoke and drink from glass bottles.

    When these rules are enforced on white people, they might get agitated and argue, but when enforced for black people, there is the additional accusation of racism.

    Our guards ARE black. It doesn't make a difference. It's made up BS to have a bigger argument.

    I know a black owner here who will not rent his unit to other black people. Because they always use the black thing when they are late on rent or whatever problem there is. 'come on, help a brother out'. This is from his mouth, not mine. I was appalled and sort of argued with him over that (it is against the law, yanno), and he just shook his head, no, he said he has been owning units and renting them for decades, and this is his experience, so no more black tenants.

    Only ONE side of racism is ever discussed, never the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    it might be easier to believe your story if you got all the facts straight. Which is it. Are the police not called on black people at the pool being disruptive because it would be on the news, or are they?
    I don't care if you believe my stories. They are not being admitted as evidence in a trial. These are my personal experiences at my personal home with this ongoing issue every summer all summer.

    I have lived here 13 years, and nothing changes every summer no matter who the guards are. It's a big topic right now because the board was trying to save money by not having the guards in the day on weekends, so we had smoking, glass bottles, trespassers, and no way to control it.

    Residents who tried to have some control over it were predictably called racist by black offenders at the pool. Now we are having the guards come back during the days and they will be called racist all summer long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post



    Aren't the wife and child also residents?

    *Puzzled look*

    Can't make everyone happy all the time, @Sassy.
    Yes, they are. Tonight I got the notice from the mailbox and looked at the rules again. Either he misunderstands, or the new PM does. I have an email in to her in case it's on her end.

    If it's her, I will agitate because he doesn't like to and I do when such seems required, lol. The three of them PLUS 4 guests are permitted at the pool or the clubhouse. The gym, tennis and racquetball courts all have a lower number of guests allowed, so I will print that out for him. There might be a slight language barrier going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    care to explain how this argument, in of itself, isn't using "racist" as a weapon? And what the hell does supporting Affirmative Action have to do with anything?
    If protesting racist injuries is a weapon, it's a pretty fucking useless one.

    We still have serving police officers here who murdered a black child, and despite all the hue and cry, still have never been made to stand trial.

    The "ability" to cry foul over perceived racist acts appears to me to be a self-defense technique on a par with wearing a magic charm around your neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    care to explain how this argument, in of itself, isn't using "racist" as a weapon? And what the hell does supporting Affirmative Action have to do with anything?
    I don't HAVE TO explain that. If you want to state how it IS using "racist" as a weapon, you could do THAT, since that's what you seem to be getting at.

    As for supporting Affirmative Action, it is the most racist thing anyone can do in America. It supports the largest racial discrimination against, by far, the largest number of victims (whites), in America over the past 50+ years.

    So those who yammer about race, condemning whites, but while supporting Affirmative Action, are the biggest hypocrites in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    I don't HAVE TO explain that. If you want to state how it IS using "racist" as a weapon, you could do THAT, since that's what you seem to be getting at.

    As for supporting Affirmative Action, it is the most racist thing anyone can do in America. It supports the largest racial discrimination against, by far, the largest number of victims (whites), in America over the past 50+ years.

    So those who yammer about race, condemning whites, but while supporting Affirmative Action, are the biggest hypocrites in America.
    "Most racist thing anyone could do in America"??????

    I believe you broke my irony meter with this post.

    BTW, condemning racism has fuckall to do with "condemning whites".

    Jesus Fucking Christ. This extreme lust SOME white male Christians have for a victim card marked "race" is just astonishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    your story doesn't sound believable. Only an employer looking to be sued would allow that type of behavior on their property. The other tenants have a right to quiet enjoyment. That right is being violated by the people you're claiming are screaming at staff in a public area. The owners could be sued both by their employees and others at the pool. A guest can be asked to leave any time the property owner, or their agents, asks them too. If they refuse , they can be arrested.
    Well, yeah. But swimmers in HOA pools are owners, not guests.

    Except for the guests of owners.

    And even a completely private pool property cannot eject swimmers for bad reasons.

    Racism is a "bad reason".

    Racially restricted facilities are possible in the U.S., if at all, only as private clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    I am not following you. What I said was that in order not to be called racist, we'd have to cease enforcement of rules for black people.
    Ridiculous assertion. Again, you ASSUME no black swimmer at your pool has ever been 100% convinced he or his kids were unfairly treated because of racism.

    You can choose to disagree, but it is arrogant and RACIST for you to decide only black swimmers at your pool are not entitled to their opinions because they are never sincere.

    Every summer, all summer, people of all types want too many guests, black and white trespassers want in, people want to smoke and drink from glass bottles.
    Doubtless. This has nothing to do with racism.

    When these rules are enforced on white people, they might get agitated and argue, but when enforced for black people, there is the additional accusation of racism.
    Welcome to reality! Jesus Christ, Sassy. This is a ridiculous argument. More black swimmers than white swimmers claim they were unfairly treated for racist reasons.

    Because white Americans face far, far, far less racism than black Americans!

    Our guards ARE black. It doesn't make a difference.
    People of any color will comply with an order from a lifeguard with more comfort than from a security guard.

    IMO, anyway.

    It's made up BS to have a bigger argument.
    Always? No black owner in your HOA has ever had a sincere belief he was treated unfairly due to racism?

    Or are you just on a generalization and assumption trip of grand proportions?

    I know a black owner here who will not rent his unit to other black people. Because they always use the black thing when they are late on rent or whatever problem there is.
    This is a criminal act. Housing discrimination based on race is a crime.

    'come on, help a brother out'. This is from his mouth, not mine. I was appalled and sort of argued with him over that (it is against the law, yanno), and he just shook his head, no, he said he has been owning units and renting them for decades, and this is his experience, so no more black tenants.
    Your friend needs to GTFO of the residential real property business AND seek professional care for his self-hatred and delusions.

    He never had a white tenant who caused problems, paid late, did damage, etc.?

    That's not possible.

    Only ONE side of racism is ever discussed, never the other.
    What the fuck is "the other side"? All the ways racism is so great?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Every summer, all summer, enforcement for all things on black people at the pool result in charges of being racist whether it's a resident, the property manager, or security. And this year, the only security guards we have are black, and yet still they say this.
    what difference does it make that the security guards are black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    what difference does it make that the security guards are black?
    Apparently, black cops, guards, etc. are believed to be immune from charges of racist injuries to black civilians EVEN IF they are inflicting an injury on blacks only.

    Kinda like how, after Obama, black Americans complaints about racism became completely baseless.

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