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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Show me a noisy reptile.
    Pfft. That was easy enough - my search took .28 seconds.

    Do reptiles make noise?
    Yes. Every known reptile in existence has some ability to produce sound. A prime example of this is snakes. They can make a wide variety of hissing sounds, and the rattlesnake,as its name suggests, can rattle its tail from side to side to ward off predators. It isn't just snakes that can produce noises, Lizards can bark, grunt, hiss and growl, Crocodiles and Alligators can produce low, guttural growls. Generally speaking, unless a reptile is born with any form of vocal defect (although this is very rare) it is capable of producing sound.
    Turtles croak.



    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Huge crocodiles don't make a sound, even when you attack them. All you get is a hiss.
    Crocodiles most definitely do make noises. Here's a page full of audio clips featuring crocodiles making plenty of different, decidedly loud noises.

    Another page with audio clips of lizard noises.

    Another page with sounds made by all sorts of reptiles.

    Since I was a child catching lizards, snakes and turtles, and visiting the crocodile part of the zoo, Iíve known that reptiles donít roar. At best they hiss, and even then, only rarely. The reasons for this couldnít be more obvious. In one simple sentence, Iíll sum it up:

    If you go around roaring all the time you scare away your lunch, and you soon become a bigger dinosaur's lunch.

    Now, why couldnít all the worldís palaeontologists figure that out? At this point, as far as I know, Iím the only person with this view.
    The reason you're the only person with this view is because your view is demonstrably wrong.

    Of course, if you'd bothered to investigate your goofy assumptions at all, you'd already know this.

    Lesson for the day, kids: DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Actually, at the 2 min, 21 sec mark, he mentions that fish donít make any noises. Remarkable, since it is relevant to this thread. It shows that you can indeed have an entire species that is silent.

    Richard Jeni on Jaws: The Revenge - YouTube
    Here's a page full of audio clips of fish making noises that you and Richard Jeni should check out.

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    Whales, elephants, hippos all comunicate via llow bellowing. This range is below our hearing range but can travel. Elephants can hear from 5 miles using this method.

    More interesting to me since reading about Deer pheromones that they communicate with tells me many other animals use this as well. Humans may even have used them but have lost the ability. Or maybe we still use some and don't even know it.

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    Best roar evah...



    Godzilla's closeup roar at the imax was fuckin awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Dinosaurs aren't reptiles,
    Reptile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This is the family tree of reptiles. Look on the lower right side so see “dinosaurs”, which are indeed, reptiles.

    they evolved into birds, which are noisy.
    Birds have wings, so they can afford to be noisy when it suits them. A roaring or barking Titanosaur would attract a pack of Giganotosauruses in no time, and unlike birds, the young 45 ton titanosaur can’t fly away. Birds can twitter and squawk, and if they attract predators, simply fly away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I find the wonderment interesting.
    I admit never giving much thought to it.
    Quite frankly, it strikes me as an absurd conversation piece. Who cares ?

    Now a study on why people focus on obscure and absurd topics would interest me.
    Or, put another way:

    On the Ning Nang Nong
    Where the Cows go Bong!
    And the monkeys all say BOO!
    There's a Nong Nang Ning
    Where the trees go Ping!
    And the tea pots jibber jabber joo.
    On the Nong Ning Nang
    All the mice go Clang
    And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
    So its Ning Nang Nong
    Cows go Bong!
    Nong Nang Ning
    Trees go ping
    Nong Ning Nang
    The mice go Clang
    What a noisy place to belong
    is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    One thing I have been annoyed by ever since I was a youngster, is the way moviemakers always depict dinosaurs roaring. From early Japanese black and white TV shows, to Steven Spielberg’s Jurassic Park, to today’s docos on Discovery and N.G. They always depict them roaring fiercely and stentoriously, which is just silly.

    Since I was a child catching lizards, snakes and turtles, and visiting the crocodile part of the zoo, I’ve known that reptiles don’t roar. At best they hiss, and even then, only rarely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steam Heat View Post
    Pfft. That was easy enough - my search took .28 seconds.



    Turtles croak.
    Croaking isn’t roaring, and turtles do that very, very rarely. I caught turtles as a child, have seen many others in many places, and watched many documentaries. All that time they made no noise at all. Then I saw one doco showing a turtle that grunted a few times. That can hardly be compared to dinosaurs going around roaring their lungs out for no reason, as shown in all dinosaur docs and films.

    The same answer applies to the rest of your points. You will find that crocodiles, especially hunting or being hunted, make no noise. You might get a hiss out of them when they are fighting, but again, that is hardly a roar.

    Another point is that turtles are very close to dinosaurs on the family tree. They both share a common ancestor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam Heat View Post
    Here's a page full of audio clips of fish making noises that you and Richard Jeni should check out.
    Congratulations – you found 15 fish out of 28,000 species that make the following noises:

    Farting, flapping, typing, mumbling, snorting, washing clothes and pissing.

    Many of these noises weren’t made with vocal chords, but were percussive. None of them roar, bark, yell, shout or scream, as per Richard Jeni’s point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Whales, elephants, hippos all comunicate via llow bellowing. This range is below our hearing range but can travel. Elephants can hear from 5 miles using this method.
    Yes, mammals are noisy - covered above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    Best roar evah...

    [video=youtube_share;4nOOekCd7U0]http://youtu.be/4nOOekCd7U0[video]

    Godzilla's closeup roar at the imax was fuckin awesome
    Brilliant example - thanks.

    Such an incredible scream achieves absolutely nothing, but it does let your predators and prey both know your presence for miles around, so they can either run away or hunt you. Only a kamikaze dino would do that.

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