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    Thanks, yes, Iíve seen that before.
    It wasn't specifically for you...just a point of interest. Birds, currently proposed as descendants of dinosaurs (three chambered heart, feathers, skeletal structure and fossils of the pre-birds) are some of the noisiest critters in existence. Parrots have no vocal chords, but can mimic human speech quite well...they also scream their heads off. Unless time travel becomes available all science can do is what they did with this one particular dino and speculate. There is probably no evidence of vocal chords because soft tissue doesn't fossilize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    Best roar evah...



    Godzilla's closeup roar at the imax was fuckin awesome
    One problem there..."Godzilla" was an irradiated iguana, not a dino, and iguanas can make vocalizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    Birds, currently proposed as descendants of dinosaurs (three chambered heart, feathers, skeletal structure and fossils of the pre-birds) are some of the noisiest critters in existence.
    This was already mentioned and covered above. Birds have wings, so they can afford to make as much noise as they like. When any predator is attracted by their noise, they can fly away. Wouldn’t it be nice for dinos if they could do that? Unfortunately they were very heavy and stuck on the ground. Screaming for them would do nothing at all but attract predators and scare off their prey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    One problem there..."Godzilla" was an irradiated iguana, not a dino, and iguanas can make vocalizations.
    To be honest it was just pixels, but regarding iguanas, I've seen plenty and never heard a sound out of one yet. Here is one being confronted by a dog. The only noise is from the noisy mammal and a noisy bird in the background. The reptile is as mute as a mackerel.

    My Boxer dog vs the iguana - YouTube

    In this vid, a guy tries to catch his iguana, and it's getting cross. All he gets is one small hiss.

    Dealing with Iguana Aggression - YouTube

    Maybe Iguanas can 'vocalize', but it's very rare, not very loud, and hardly compares with roaring, screaming, screeching or barking. Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    To be honest it was just pixels, but regarding iguanas, I've seen plenty and never heard a sound out of one yet. Here is one being confronted by a dog. The only noise is from the noisy mammal and a noisy bird in the background. The reptile is as mute as a mackerel.

    My Boxer dog vs the iguana - YouTube

    In this vid, a guy tries to catch his iguana, and it's getting cross. All he gets is one small hiss.

    Dealing with Iguana Aggression - YouTube

    Maybe Iguanas can 'vocalize', but it's very rare, not very loud, and hardly compares with roaring, screaming, screeching or barking. Try again.
    Not rare at all...both of mine did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Hey Ė thanks for that link Ė I didnít realize others were talking about this.

    Iím happy to concede that being as large as they were, they may have made some sounds, especially in regard to mating, or maybe (with herds of herbivores) when warning others that predators were spotted. However, it seems that certain species have very strong characteristics, and one of the things about reptiles that really stands out, is their quietness. Being quiet is very useful in terms of not telling your prey or your enemies where you are. If I was a tyrannosaurus I would creep up on my prey, then charge when close enough. I wouldnít bellow or scream because that might attract even larger tyrannosauruses to my location, so they could steal my lunch. As for the prey, it wouldnít scream or bellow either, lest other predators join the first.
    There are billions of people in the world and if you have questions about something, I'm sure someone is studying it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    One problem there..."Godzilla" was an irradiated iguana, not a dino, and iguanas can make vocalizations.
    Was that the original Godzilla or that abortion of a movie based in New York?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    One problem there..."Godzilla" was an irradiated iguana, not a dino, and iguanas can make vocalizations.
    huhwhat?




    I'm sorry... couldnt hear you over Godzilla's awesome roar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    This was already mentioned and covered above. Birds have wings, so they can afford to make as much noise as they like. When any predator is attracted by their noise, they can fly away. Wouldn’t it be nice for dinos if they could do that? Unfortunately they were very heavy and stuck on the ground. Screaming for them would do nothing at all but attract predators and scare off their prey.
    There are predator birds. Your analogy does not compute. Using Hollywood and Godzilla as part of your "study" is amusing.

    Noises serve several functions besides mating. They can alert other members of the group to danger, to food or water or a mother calling a baby.

    Since we have no live specimens to observe, it's unknown if they made any noises. Observing other, living species indicates there is an evolutionary advantage to doing so. Dinosaurs roamed the planet for 165 million years. Humans have only been around for 2 million years. It's not a big stretch of the imagination to think they could have evolved a method of auditory communication in those 165 million years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    Not rare at all...both of mine did it.
    Congrats. Give them the "tiny roar" award. The kind of "roar" that would make a flea turn over in its sleep.

    Oh wait - sorry - it's going to a skink in Tasmania that farted once in 1940, so loudly it woke up an aphid sleeping half an inch away.

    Have you anything serious to knock the “dinos don’t roar” theory on the head, or is that it? Farts and burps.

    Quote Originally Posted by godlessheathen View Post
    There are billions of people in the world and if you have questions about something, I'm sure someone is studying it lol

    That's the beauty of science.
    Very true.

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