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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    Life forms our planet "Earthlike". Our atmosphere for example is a result of the life on planet earth. Looks like we kill in the moment the living conditions here. Two of the planets of the sun Trappist 1 (e+f) are 100% in the "habitable zone", where water is able to exist in the fluid form. Two others are very near (d+g).
    I reiterate: We do NOT yet know if these are Earth-LIKE planets. We don't even know if ANY of them even HAVE an atmosphere. Red dwarf stars such as the Trappist primary tend to be VERY unstable and are prone to enormous coronal mass ejections [CME events, like the Carrington Event that hit the Earth in 1859, only larger], which just might be severe enough to strip away a planet's atmosphere. We shall just have to await further studies, and may have to wait for the James Webb Telescope to go up. To answer your other question, the James Webb Telescope is, of course, a NASA project, indeed NAMED after a former NASA administrator. And so it is American taxpayers who will be paying for the telescope. I trust that MOST Americans think we got our money's worth from the Hubble Space Telescope. The James Webb Telescope will be a MASSIVE improvement......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    What are we going to do if we discover that they are inhabited by Republicans?
    Give thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    What are we going to do if we discover that they are inhabited by Republicans?
    Bathe all the planets with lethal neutron radiation. And then, just to be SURE, nuke them, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    The whitehouse just issued a press release concerning this..




    https://www.whitehouse.gov/

    The White House
    Office of the Press Secretary
    For Immediate Release
    March 01, 2017

    Presidential Executive Order on The White House Initiative to Promote Excellence and Innovation at Making The Universe Great Again

    EXECUTIVE ORDER

    - - - - - - -

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to advance opportunities in making the universe great again, I hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Policy. Each of the seven planets shall henceforth be name Trump Planet.



    THE DONALD J. TRUMP
    THE WHITE HOUSE, March 01, 2017.
    ..snip..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    The whitehouse just issued a press release concerning this..




    https://www.whitehouse.gov/

    The White House
    Office of the Press Secretary
    For Immediate Release
    March 01, 2017

    Presidential Executive Order on The White House Initiative to Promote Excellence and Innovation at Making The Universe Great Again

    EXECUTIVE ORDER

    - - - - - - -

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to advance opportunities in making the universe great again, I hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Policy. Each of the seven planets shall henceforth be name Trump Planet.



    THE DONALD J. TRUMP
    THE WHITE HOUSE, March 01, 2017.
    ..snip..
    All the MORE reason to bathe them all in lethal neutron radiation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I would argue the opposite. If the planet had water and the conditions we do it would be more like impossible for life to not develop. All you need is a couple single celled organisms and a couple billion years and they will be posting on internet forums like you are doing right now. Just because you don't know how that first spark of life got here doesn't mean it is magic, I would use the word inevitable.
    Take the Venus and the Earth some time ago as an example. The Venus was the same as it is today - a planet with fluid plumbum on the surface; hot, high pressure. I love the word "plumbum", but I don't like to live under such living conditions - not even for the part of a second, because I would not survive this part of a second. The Earth was the same time like a white snowball - on a very simple reason: it was indeed full of snow - a lifeless ice desert. Everywhere white. All around. Radiation (also heat) was reflected. Here it was damned cold - better to say it was damned colder - even damnder and colder. And the worst: This was a stable situation! No chance anymore for life on planet Earth. Tilt. The game was over. New lifeforms had no chance any longer. Fortunately god had let happen a wonder this prebiblical days and caused a gigantic dirty geophysical catastrophe, which had moved the Earth in a chaotic new form of self-regulating warmer climate. So I don't know what you call "inevitable" in this context and I'm not sure whether "habitable zone" is a good concept at all. And please do not forget: Additionally the theory of evolution knows nothing about a direction of life in sense of a forcing causality and/or a natural teleology or teleonomy; Nature has no plans! It exists - that's all. And we know now in the moment for sure one thing: We are here on this planet the only species, whose members are able to communicate about very abstract concepts. My dog is for sure a very intelligent member of a very intelligent species too, with an unbelievable high social competence and an astonishing empty stomach, even if the stomach for goodies is full - comparable with the second stomach of little children for goodies, which seems to be also always empty - but I'm not able to explain to my dog what a planet is or what are transzendental numbers. And now we find seven Earth sized planets in only one sun system directly in the nearest neighborhood only 40 light years away. What do we find now under this "inevitable" good conditions? If you would be right then we know now: Everywhere are lots of planets for a species as we are. So let me again ask: Where are "they"? Billions of years ago existed planets. How long do you think will we need to find a way to travel to other suns? Billions of years? I guess if we had started only some million years ago with language, culture and civilisation then we would be everywhere in the galaxy now. Specially we would be on this seven planets. No - as far as I can see this seven planets don't show that our galaxy is full of other "not Earth created human beings" or ETs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    Take the Venus and the Earth some time ago as an example. The Venus was the same as it is today - a planet with fluid plumbum on the surface; hot, high pressure. I love the word "plumbum", but I don't like to live under such living conditions - not even for the part of a second, because I would not survive this part of a second. The Earth was the same time like a white snowball - on a very simple reason: it was indeed full of snow - a lifeless ice desert. Everywhere white. All around. Radiation (also heat) was reflected. Here it was damned cold - better to say it was damned colder - even damnder and colder. And the worst: This was a stable situation! No chance anymore for life on planet Earth. Tilt. The game was over. New lifeforms had no chance any longer. Fortunately god had let happen a wonder this prebiblical days and caused a gigantic dirty geophysical catastrophe, which had moved the Earth in a chaotic new form of self-regulating warmer climate. So I don't know what you call "inevitable" in this context and I'm not sure whether "habitable zone" is a good concept at all. And please do not forget: Additionally the theory of evolution knows nothing about a direction of life in sense of a forcing causality and/or a natural teleology or teleonomy; Nature has no plans! It exists - that's all. And we know now in the moment for sure one thing: We are here on this planet the only species, whose members are able to communicate about very abstract concepts. My dog is for sure a very intelligent member of a very intelligent species too, with an unbelievable high social competence and an astonishing empty stomach, even if the stomach for goodies is full - comparable with the second stomach of little children for goodies, which seems to be also always empty - but I'm not able to explain to my dog what a planet is or what are transzendental numbers. And now we find seven Earth sized planets in only one sun system directly in the nearest neighborhood only 40 light years away. What do we find now under this "inevitable" good conditions? If you would be right then we know now: Everywhere are lots of planets for a species as we are. So let me again ask: Where are "they"? Billions of years ago existed planets. How long do you think will we need to find a way to travel to other suns? Billions of years? I guess if we had started only some million years ago with language, culture and civilisation then we would be everywhere in the galaxy now. Specially we would be on this seven planets. No - as far as I can see this seven planets don't show that our galaxy is full of other "not Earth created human beings" or ETs.

    What you are asking about is known as the Fermi Paradox. But there are many possible answers for it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    What you are asking about is known as the Fermi Paradox. But there are many possible answers for it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
    I did not speak about any paradox. I just simple asked 'Where are "they"?'. And I'm not able to ask Mr. Enrico Fermi, because Mr. Fermi is dead since more than sixty years. What of the "many possible answers" - I don't know any of them - is in your eyes a plausible solution for this problem? I would suggest we should take care for all and every life on planet Earth. I think we have to save all life, specially if we don't like to make god more than only angry. Life is for sure the most valuable essential substance of the universe. Perhaps life exists indeed only here on planet Earth. And I would suggest we should travel to Trappist 1 as soon as possible. We have to see what's really going on there. Perhaps we can bring life to one of this planets, if they are totally without any own form of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    I did not speak about any paradox. I just simple asked 'Where are "they"?'. And I'm not able to ask Mr. Enrico Fermi, because Mr. Fermi is dead since more than sixty years. What of the "many possible answers" - I don't know any of them - is in your eyes a plausible solution for this problem? I would suggest we should take care for all and every life on planet Earth. I think we have to save all life, specially if we don't like to make god more than only angry. Life is for sure the most valuable essential substance of the universe. Perhaps life exists indeed only here on planet Earth. And I would suggest we should travel to Trappist 1 as soon as possible. We have to see what's really going on there. Perhaps we can bring life to one of this planets, if they are totally without any own form of life.

    ??? 'Where are they?' is EXACTLY the question that Enrico Fermi asked. EXACTLY. I suggest you read the link I provided you.

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