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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    I'm all for science concentrating on matters that benefit humanity.
    Studying human evolution does benefit humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    I'm all for science concentrating on matters that benefit humanity.
    Sometimes we do not even know how something discovered today will benefit humanity at some point in the futire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Actually, the question isn't whether the tooth is older than African teeth but whether they're of early humans or another branch of primates that died off.

    then we shall see..... they are what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Studying human evolution does benefit humanity.
    Examples being......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    Examples being......
    Dude, if we know where we've been and how we reached the point of development we have reached to this point, it could give us clues to what lies in the future, good or bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Dude, if we know where we've been and how we reached the point of development we have reached to this point, it could give us clues to what lies in the future, good or bad.
    Plus, it can help with medicine, understanding how to develop societies that function well for as many people as possible and on and on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    then we shall see..... they are what they are.
    The consensus of science is leaning toward their being a branch that died off rather than a close relation that we're descended from.
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    When I took my one anthropology class the professor said there were multiple theories about how life spread out.

    She said the common belief was that they originated in Africa but a competing theory said that life sprung up all over the world at roughly the same time.

    Its beginning to look like that second theory is becoming more credible.
    Not exactly. A 'missing link' was discovered in Europe is what this is about. I've posted the link to an article about it a few times here in discussion but failed to make a thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    This will thrill white supremacists all over the world, which is my guess why folks would embrace it.
    Why? They went back and forth between there and Africa. If anything, it will show that we still all came from the same place.
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    The discovery of the creature, named Graecopithecus freybergi, and nicknameded ‘El Graeco' by scientists, proves our ancestors were already starting to evolve in Europe 200,000 years before the earliest African hominid.

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    “Graecopithecus is not an ape. He is a member of the tribe of hominins and the direct ancestor of homo.

    “The food of the Graecopithecus was related to the rather dry and hard savannah vegetation, unlike that of the recent great apes which are living in forests. Therefore, like humans, he has wide molars and thick enamel.

    "To some extent this is a newly discovered missing link. But missing links will always exist , because evolution is infinite chain of subsequent forms. Probably El Graeco's face will resemble a great ape, with shorter canines."

    The team analysed the two known specimens of Graecopithecus freybergi: a lower jaw from Greece and an upper premolar tooth from Bulgaria.

    Using computer tomography, they were able to visualise the internal structures of the fossils and show that the roots of premolars are widely fused.

    "While great apes typically have two or three separate and diverging roots, the roots of Graecopithecus converge and are partially fused - a feature that is characteristic of modern humans, early humans and several pre-humans,", said lead researcher Professor Madelaine Böhme of the University of Tübingen.

    The lower jaw, has additional dental root features, suggesting that the species was a hominid.

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    Professor Böhme added: "Our findings may eventually change our ideas about the origin of humanity. I personally don't think that the descendants of Graecopithecus die out, they may have spread to Africa later. The split of chimps and humans was a single event. Our data support the view that this split was happening in the eastern Mediterranean - not in Africa.

    "If accepted, this theory will indeed alter the very beginning of human history."

    Europe was the birthplace of mankind, not Africa, scientists find
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