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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    This last statement is total bullshit. It is conferring a determination. There is no determination of the origin of humans. Even Lucy is part of a theory.
    Oh, I see the problem. The title of the article. It's at the bottom looking like a statement, when it's actually a misleading headline. It was meant as a link to my article. Which states IF this theory is correct, it will alter our knowledge of human history, NOT that it is a conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    'Peer review' doesn't mean much after many peer reviews were written by left winged propagandists regarding AGW.
    It also means that all of the data was made available to the public.

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    Nothing that I have seen thus far has convinced me that these teeth are in any way, related to modern humans.

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    Is it possible? No.

    Thanks to Betteridge's Law of Headlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    It's unlikely. The European climate has never been considered conducive to the evolution of early primates. These primates were scavengers, not hunters. And that far from the equator, scavenger food is much scarcer; a single winter would have wiped them out.

    I'll wait until the study has been peer-reviewed and published. Currently, it's only on Researchgate, which doesn't require any peer-review.
    Not sure if I agree. Mammals tend to get larger the farther north you go (See Bergmann's rule) They may be fewer in number but their larger carcass size makes up for that. And winter can be prime time to find dead mammal carcasses.
    Last edited by EnigmaO01; 22nd October 2017 at 12:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Peer review means the same as it always has, whether or not the results fit your desire for right-wing propaganda.
    Peer reviews were thoroughly corrupted by environmental communists using that system to create validity for a weather inspired myth. I will never again bother listening to peer reviews as a result, and the same applies to millions of others. When we hear ‘peer reviewed’ we see mindless socialists at work.

    Righties were the first ones to get political about evolution.
    You’re confusing ‘righties’ with ‘the church and its followers’. Many Lefties make this mistake. They think that conservatives are all religious. In reality the great majority of religious people in the world are left winged. Let’s find the first major critic of Darwin to see how your theory pans out:

    From “Reactions to On the Origin of Species”:

    “The most famous confrontation took place at the public 1860 Oxford evolution debate during a meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science, when the Bishop of Oxford Samuel Wilberforce argued against Darwin's explanation. In the ensuing debate Joseph Hooker argued strongly in favor of Darwinian evolution. Thomas Huxley's support of evolution was so intense that the media and public nicknamed him "Darwin's bulldog".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reacti...gin_of_Species

    Thus, in the 'most famous confrontation’ Samuel Wilberforce argued against evolution. He was a man who “distinguished himself as a zealous advocate of liberalism”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel...rce#Early_life

    “Liberals opposed traditional conservatism…”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

    So, in the most famous confrontation’ concerning Darwin’s theory, a liberal, the Bishop of Oxford, Samuel Wilberforce, argued against evolution. So did his liberal clergy, in the same gathering.

    At the same most famous confrontation, Joseph Dalton Hooker argued strongly in favor of Darwinian evolution. Dalton was a conservative. On this page he is described as ‘a philosophic Conservative’ and ‘moderate conservative’:

    https://archive.org/stream/lifelette...krich_djvu.txt

    At the same most famous confrontation, Thomas Huxley's support of evolution was so intense that the media and public nicknamed him "Darwin's bulldog". In that confrontation Huxley had to oppose many liberal clergy. Him and Hooker were close friends also, thus it is fairly apparent he was more conservative than liberal. This page verifies that he despised ‘the liberal clergy’.

    https://creation.com/darwins-bulldog-thomas-h-huxley

    Science is science, not propaganda.
    Science is science, and communists have infiltrated it, just as they’ve infiltrated schools, colleges, newspapers, TV, Hollywood, unions, and everything else that’s not nailed down. As a result of their work in ‘science’ we now have myths like AGW.

    You just do not like the answers because they do not conform to your predetermined religious beliefs.
    I’m an atheist. I guess that makes you wrong again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    No, peer review is an essential step in proving or disproving a theory.
    Water is essential for us to drink, but not when it’s poisoned.

    [IMG]http://thescienceexplorer.com/sites/thescienceexplorer.com/files/images/hominid%20tree%20skulls.jpg[IMG]
    Did you think this picture was complete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Peer reviews were thoroughly corrupted....
    ... which is just another way of saying you ignore science when you do not like its conclusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    When we hear ‘peer reviewed’ we see mindless socialists at work.
    Then you need your eyes checked. And probably a psychiatric examination as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    You’re confusing ‘righties’ with ‘the church and its followers’.
    No, I am not. The religious establishment opposed anything that appeared to challenge its divine authority, thus seeking to conserve its power (hence "conservatism").

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Science is science, and communists have infiltrated it, just as they’ve infiltrated schools, colleges, newspapers, TV, Hollywood, unions, and everything else that’s not nailed down.
    Have you had your tinfoil hat cleaned lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    ... which is just another way of saying you ignore science when you do not like its conclusions.
    Nice placard.

    Then you need your eyes checked. And probably a psychiatric examination as well.
    Weather religions have been around for millennia. The basic idea is that mankind's bad deeds cause the gods to be angry, and they in turn give us bad weather. Even American farmers pray for good weather, or rain, and when it doesn’t come they assume it’s because god is angry with them. It seems it is a part of the human psyche. It doesn’t mean you’re mad or delusional. Just wrong. Like all religions it’s something you want to believe, and communists have taken advantage of that. It’s all very well documented.

    The religious establishment opposed anything that appeared to challenge its divine authority,
    Whether you’ve figured it out or not most religious people are liberals. Like most Lefties, they hate the rich, hate big industry, hate science, hate technology, and thus they hate Trump. I suppose you think the Pope likes Trump, eh? I suppose you think religious people were different in the past? You’d be wrong. Play with words all you like, but religious people are predominately liberal, and always have been. There are thousands of examples. Here’s just one:

    “…it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
    Jesus

    thus seeking to conserve its power (hence "conservatism").
    Now you’re being pedantic. It would be just like the Left to change history to describe all the liberal religious folk down through the ages as ‘righties’.

    Have you had your tinfoil hat cleaned lately?
    I haven’t heard that old saying for some years. Left winged Libertarians used to say it a lot when I disagreed with their communist views.
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    I don’t know what to tell you @Babba. You conclusively laid this to rest on page 2 that these teeth aren’t human. But here we are. Discussing the “controversy”.
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