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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    You remind me of the kind of people that hung out a window of a moving train and blasted as many American Bison as humanly possible.

    That kind of people.
    Or this asshole:


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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    You remind me of the kind of people that hung out a window of a moving train and blasted as many American Bison as humanly possible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Or this asshole:
    You remind me of the kind of people who would halt a much needed dam to save a snail called 'snot head' because there were only two left, when the world loses tens of thousands of species every year in the perfectly natural cycle of extinction that life needs to evolve. Halting the dam to save 'snot head' isn't going to change life on earth, and won't stop tens of thousands of species going extinct for perfectly normal natural reasons. You hurt millions of people for what? A couple of snot-heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Without extinction none of us would exist. It is essential to the evolution and continuation of life.

    More than 99 percent of all species, amounting to over five billion species, that ever lived on Earth are estimated to be extinct. Estimates on the number of Earth's current species range from 10 million to 14 million, of which about 1.2 million have been documented and over 86 percent have not yet been described.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+....0.5EADb3u3ei8

    5 billion divided by 14 million = about 357, which means 357 other groups of 14 million species have gone extinct.

    So just how important is the Furbish lousewort?
    This is the single most ridiculous argument that I've ever heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Or this asshole:

    You do nothing for a good cause with responses like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    This is the single most ridiculous argument that I've ever heard.
    It should be easy for you to demolish it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    It should be easy for you to demolish it then.
    So easy, that it is like shooting fish in a barrel. A bit too easy to even make it worth the effort.

    I think the whole premise is that we should not care if anything goes extinct. But if we did what Rightwingers wanted, there would be nothing but humans, cows and chickens left.

    Should humans have the right to irradicate what God has created? We have learned over time, that man's notion of progress, isn't always in his/her best interest.

    That being said, this is what I have found with regards to what you are referring:

    The United States Congress had been inconsistent regarding the snail darter and the Endangered Species Act. Appropriations committees in both the House and Senate had taken a strong position against the snail darter. A 1977 Senate Appropriations Committee report stated:

    This committee has not viewed the Endangered Species Act as preventing the completion and use of these projects which were well under way at the time the affected species were listed as endangered. If the act has such an effect, which is contrary to the Committee’s understanding of the intent of Congress in enacting the Endangered Species Act, funds should be appropriated to allow these projects to be completed and their benefits realized in the public interest, the Endangered Species Act not withstanding.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snai...er_controversy


    It seems that common sense does prevail, still looking for the "snot head snail" to see more about what you are actually refering to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post


    Pedicularis furbishiae (Furbish's lousewort) is a perennial herb found only on the shores of the upper Saint John River in Maine and New Brunswick.

    It is considered an endangered species in the United States and Canada.

    The Dickey-Lincoln dam, a $227 million hydroelectric project proposed on the upper Saint John River in 1974, was shut down by Congress in 1986 after years of study, because the dam would have flooded 88,000 acres of Maine forest and severely reduced the lousewort's habitat. Some criticized ending the dam project to protect the lousewort. Time magazine called the idea "downright silly" in 1977. While thought extinct at the time the dam was proposed, it was rediscovered in 1976 by C.D. Richards while doing surveys to determine the environmental impact of the dam.

    https://topics.revolvy.com/topic/Ped...tem_type=topic

    This is what environmentalists have been doing since the 70’s. Shutting down dams around the world by scrounging up examples of some forgettable species that was probably on its way to extinction, and using them as an excuse to shut down major projects such as dams, vital to towns and cities. They did the same thing in Australia many times.

    When you consider the fact that more than 99 percent of all species, amounting to over five billion species, that ever lived on Earth are estimated to be extinct, and out of the current 14 million species we have, over 86 percent have not even yet been described, can anybody tell me what big a deal it was to shut down this dam for the sake of a crappy plant they already thought was extinct?

    As Time magazine said at the time, it was ‘downright silly’.
    You are attempting to blame the failure of this dam being built on a simple herb, when there was much more to the picture:

    AUGUSTA, Maine (AP) — It was three decades ago this year that a massive hydroelectric project along northern Maine's scenic and wild St. John River was to have begun. But a prolonged fight with opponents, huge cost overruns and erosion of support from the state's congressional delegation kept it from ever being built.

    Congress authorized the project known as Dickey-Lincoln in 1965 at a cost of $219 million. But through the years, its cost escalated, eventually reaching more than $900 million by the early 1980s. That covered two power dams and transmission lines from them....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    I think the whole premise is that we should not care if anything goes extinct.
    You know thatís untrue since I said no such thing, which is why you provided no quote.

    But if we did what Rightwingers wanted, there would be nothing but humans, cows and chickens left.
    You mean all the guys who fill your supermarket with produce, made your computer, car and all the stuff in your home? The ones that dictate your every move as you operate and use their produce? You already do what they want, all day long. Why would they destroy the animal and plant products they currently harvest to sell to you?

    Should humans have the right to irradicate what God has created?
    Wow, you forfeited in just three moves. You in a hurry or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    You are attempting to blame the failure of this dam being built on a simple herb, when there was much more to the picture:
    You didn't say what more there was to the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    You do nothing for a good cause with responses like this.
    Do you even know what that picture is?

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