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    They should cut off Prius drivers, the most entitled ****s on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Listening to some archived TED Talks, I came across this one. Talk about a very interesting situation. Picture yourself in a driverless car, a situation occurs that there will be an accident. Should the car determine whether to cause your death while saving a crosswalk full of people? Sound far fetched? Picture an autonomous vehicle driving down an interstate when a drunk driver gets on the interstate headed the wrong way. There isn't enough time to stop. Does the autonomous car go off road risking your life, head on the car, take out the car in the lane next to you?
    they must pass the drivers education course and recite all rules of the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    True. I think the biggest mental obstacle for humans will be its out of our hands. The car will decide. I have known people who have swerved or done a maneuver knowing they had a baby or small child in the back. They tried to put themselves more at risk to prevent the child from taking a full brunt. A vehicle wont think like that. It will just decide not realizing the driver might prefer the children are more important than they are.
    Maybe when you start it up you have to login with who is sitting in which seat and then prioritize your children in the order of who you love the most?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Maybe when you start it up you have to login with who is sitting in which seat and then prioritize your children in the order of who you love the most?

    Ooh imagine the fun with couples that have just had a fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    It should make the same kinds of decisions a human driver does.

    if my vehicle is going to have an head on impact collision, then my car should chose to move to the right to avoid the initial collision.

    moving to the right does not guarantee I will not cause another accident, but that is not because of AI..that is on the fact that I am traveling with other cars.

    My car should never go left as it would be crossing the median into on coming traffic.

    If there is a bus stop full of kids ...on the right that my car hits in avoiding the head on collision, those kids were there at that particular time of the collision whether I had AI or not.

    No system or human can foresee every possibility or outcome of a split decision.
    And lets be real, humans aren't making moral decisions when facing a potential accident, they are working solely on instincts. IN the split seconds the danger is registered there is no conscious thought of what to do, people just react
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I am not sure a driverless car would be able to make moral decisions or value judgments.
    Actually, the cars computer could calculate the estimated loss of life prior to taking action. The point is that would it consider the life of the passengers more valuable than those of the people in the crosswalk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    It should make the same kinds of decisions a human driver does.

    if my vehicle is going to have an head on impact collision, then my car should chose to move to the right to avoid the initial collision.

    moving to the right does not guarantee I will not cause another accident, but that is not because of AI..that is on the fact that I am traveling with other cars.

    My car should never go left as it would be crossing the median into on coming traffic.

    If there is a bus stop full of kids ...on the right that my car hits in avoiding the head on collision, those kids were there at that particular time of the collision whether I had AI or not.

    No system or human can foresee every possibility or outcome of a split decision.
    The computer can consider more factors that you can and more quickly. It can know that if it swerves to the right, you are going to strike a pole at 60 mph, most likely killing you but it will save the group of ball players that just ran out into the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Actually, the cars computer could calculate the estimated loss of life prior to taking action. The point is that would it consider the life of the passengers more valuable than those of the people in the crosswalk?
    Not valuable but rather, worse off. A computer would sense that people walking are more likely to be hurt than people in a car who have seat belts and a 3000 pound steel vehicle around them. So it would choose not to hit the pedestrians and veer off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    They should cut off Prius drivers, the most entitled ****s on the road.
    Hey, I resemble that, I mean resent that. My Prius IS the most entitled on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Not valuable but rather, worse off. A computer would sense that people walking are more likely to be hurt than people in a car who have seat belts and a 3000 pound steel vehicle around them. So it would choose not to hit the pedestrians and veer off.
    It could actually think about value in the calculations, a 51-year-old man driving alone in the car. Several pedestrians who are children with their whole lives ahead of them. Computers can calculate a lot.
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