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    The computer can consider more factors that you can and more quickly. It can know that if it swerves to the right, you are going to strike a pole at 60 mph, most likely killing you but it will save the group of ball players that just ran out into the street.
    This makes me wish that driverless car technology could be put into guns.

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    It should make the same kinds of decisions a human driver does.

    if my vehicle is going to have an head on impact collision, then my car should chose to move to the right to avoid the initial collision.

    moving to the right does not guarantee I will not cause another accident, but that is not because of AI..that is on the fact that I am traveling with other cars.

    My car should never go left as it would be crossing the median into on coming traffic.

    If there is a bus stop full of kids ...on the right that my car hits in avoiding the head on collision, those kids were there at that particular time of the collision whether I had AI or not.

    No system or human can foresee every possibility or outcome of a split decision.
    An acquaintance of mine (note I am not saying friend) categorically states he will never buy a self driving car and unless conditions force him will never ride in a self driving car for this exact reason.

    He is convinced that if the car ends up with a choice of hitting three pedestrians or driving him off the edge of a 100' cliff, the car would choose the cliff. And he says he wouldn't. End of argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    It should make the same kinds of decisions a human driver does.

    if my vehicle is going to have an head on impact collision, then my car should chose to move to the right to avoid the initial collision.

    moving to the right does not guarantee I will not cause another accident, but that is not because of AI..that is on the fact that I am traveling with other cars.

    My car should never go left as it would be crossing the median into on coming traffic.

    If there is a bus stop full of kids ...on the right that my car hits in avoiding the head on collision, those kids were there at that particular time of the collision whether I had AI or not.

    No system or human can foresee every possibility or outcome of a split decision.
    the idea would need to be for a driverless car to adjust it's speed at all times, to have the calculated opportunity to stop before hitting a stationary or slow moving object, like a person.
    if a driverless car gets targeted by an oncoming vehicle at high speed for a head-on collision, there's probably no chance, since even slowing down to a stop, cannot avoid the collision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    An acquaintance of mine (note I am not saying friend) categorically states he will never buy a self driving car and unless conditions force him will never ride in a self driving car for this exact reason.

    He is convinced that if the car ends up with a choice of hitting three pedestrians or driving him off the edge of a 100' cliff, the car would choose the cliff. And he says he wouldn't. End of argument.
    Your friend is exactly right. And that is the quandary that we would face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Your friend is exactly right. And that is the quandary that we would face.
    The ai systems are getting better at recognizing hazards...

    I know there's big hopes to have these cars getting on the roads in the next 5-10 years... but it's going to be slow... first small rail, then simple bus routes.

    However, add in vehicle to vehicle communication and the task is easier, I just don't see it being widespread for some time and lots of people will not want to give up control.

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    You would be surprised how many people would give up driving each day if there was an automated vehicle available. I certainly would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    They should cut off Prius drivers, the most entitled ****s on the road.
    ... And F-250's.

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    Driverless cars would save over one million lives a year. That would certainly offset any "moral" decisions that a car could not make.

    And with fewer accidents, there would be far too fewer decisions to make in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Driverless cars would save over one million lives a year. That would certainly offset any "moral" decisions that a car could not make.

    And with fewer accidents, there would be far too fewer decisions to make in the first place.
    I agree that driverless cars, once fully implemented would save many lives each year. But this thread is about the tradeoff of where the car decides that your life should be sacrificed to save other lives.
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    A driverless car, whose decision was challenged, could be brought to trial and face the judgement of it's peers: a panel of other driverless cars.

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