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    A novel light source is the sun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    I could see these being used as Street lighting Great way to mark the shoulder of a road
    It would be far dimmer than a splash of traffic paint (which is infused with reflective beads). The paint lasts for years, and doesn't die in temperature extremes.
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    Umm... It's not quite that straight forward. Monsanto had the stated goal of "owning the worlds food supply", safety is not the concern, patenting life is far more profitable.
    Where does Monsanto state this?

    Anyway, the studies concerning safety are nowhere near adequate concerning the potential consequences, but it's one of those where the cats already out of the bag.... Now, if it turns out that these things had long term unintended consequences, it's already at the point where it would require a scorching of the earth and restarting with some of those underground seed vaults.
    It's easy to say that the studies are "nowhere near adequate" when no one is willing to quantify "adequate." For many people, "adequate" seems to mean "until we find an excuse to prohibit GMOs."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Where does Monsanto state this?


    It's easy to say that the studies are "nowhere near adequate" when no one is willing to quantify "adequate." For many people, "adequate" seems to mean "until we find an excuse to prohibit GMOs."
    It probably wasn't what was highlighted on their website. This was what they were saying to justify tainting people's farms with their seed so they can sue for infringing on intellectual property.

    As far as safety studies; when you combine 2 organisms... let's see:
    - will the offspring of the mutation survive the next 10 generations
    - will the combination of 2 unrelated species allow for some viral transmission vectors that was previously impossible
    - etc....

    Also, while I'm sure the process has been more refined.... it used to be done with a "gene gun" that would shoot the genetics into the cell and hope for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    It probably wasn't what was highlighted on their website. This was what they were saying to justify tainting people's farms with their seed so they can sue for infringing on intellectual property.

    As far as safety studies; when you combine 2 organisms... let's see:
    - will the offspring of the mutation survive the next 10 generations
    - will the combination of 2 unrelated species allow for some viral transmission vectors that was previously impossible
    - etc....

    Also, while I'm sure the process has been more refined.... it used to be done with a "gene gun" that would shoot the genetics into the cell and hope for the best.
    The "tainting farmland" story is bogus. Look up the details of the story... you'll find that the farms being sued by Monsanto were not "tainted." That would mean a small percentage of the farmland had some Monsanto-made plants growing. That's not the case. The farms being sued all had fields which were 90%+ Monsanto plants. The farmers were even using "RoundUp" herbicide, proving that they KNEW the plants were Monsanto, as the herbicide would have harmed other plants in the field.

    That doesn't happen by accident. That happens when farmers deliberately plant Monsanto crops without paying for them.

    Seriously - look up the details, and you'll see I'm right on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    The "tainting farmland" story is bogus. Look up the details of the story... you'll find that the farms being sued by Monsanto were not "tainted." That would mean a small percentage of the farmland had some Monsanto-made plants growing. That's not the case. The farms being sued all had fields which were 90%+ Monsanto plants. The farmers were even using "RoundUp" herbicide, proving that they KNEW the plants were Monsanto, as the herbicide would have harmed other plants in the field.

    That doesn't happen by accident. That happens when farmers deliberately plant Monsanto crops without paying for them.

    Seriously - look up the details, and you'll see I'm right on this.
    Yes... it never happened, because of that one case where the person was trying to replant the seed.

    No, When a farm signs the contract Monsanto KNOWS that the pollen gets carried in the wind and it's a cheap opportunity to scam some stupid hicks out of their land. So, they go to the neighbours collect samples, illegally, and then use that...

    It just doesn't make news because who the fuck cares about those hicks, what have they ever done for you anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Yes... it never happened, because of that one case where the person was trying to replant the seed.

    No, When a farm signs the contract Monsanto KNOWS that the pollen gets carried in the wind and it's a cheap opportunity to scam some stupid hicks out of their land. So, they go to the neighbours collect samples, illegally, and then use that...

    It just doesn't make news because who the fuck cares about those hicks, what have they ever done for you anyway.
    Can you cite a single case in which Monsanto has sued a farm under these circumstances? Just a name that I can use to look up the case details?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Can you cite a single case in which Monsanto has sued a farm under these circumstances? Just a name that I can use to look up the case details?
    I know, I've tried digging for these cases in the past, one that wouldn't be an anecdote. Maybe you want to dig through all the legal records of small farming towns over the past 25 years. However, that same story is the one that's stayed floated at the top for like a decade.

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    Has every man on PH clocked in to this thread to ridicule my enthusiam?

    Feels that way......lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    It would be far dimmer than a splash of traffic paint (which is infused with reflective beads). The paint lasts for years, and doesn't die in temperature extremes.
    I'm just picturing a walk in the park at night being like a trip to Pandora. Reflective paint has nothing on that.
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