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    Computer Analysis Reveals Likelihood of Serial Killer(s) In Cleveland

    CLEVELAND, Ohio - A look at the unsolved murders of more than 60 women dating back to 2004 reveals patterns, ones that could mean some of the cases are connected, according to an analysis done in partnership by The Plain Dealer, Murder Accountability Project (MAP) and WKYC Channel 3.

    The unsolved cases have a number of statistically unusual commonalities, especially among the women killed by "hands-on" methods, according to Thomas Hargrove, chairman of the non-profit MAP.

    Women who were strangled, stabbed or killed using blunt force skewed older and were more likely to be white or Hispanic. Women with histories of soliciting also were extremely likely to be killed using one of those more personal methods, which are more often used by serial killers.

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    [Mayor] Jackson said the city had solved only 47 percent of its homicide cases for 2017, which was similar to the number it reported solving to the FBI in 2015. (The number reported to the FBI as solved for 2016 was far lower: 15 percent.)

    In decades past, the solve rate was 75 percent or higher
    , according to FBI records.

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    Patterns persist in the unsolved murders of Cleveland women: Update | cleveland.com

    The takeaway seems to be that Cleveland has had a huge increase in the percent of unsolved homicides where the known facts indicate a killer or killer might be responsible for some/many/most of these deaths. This pattern is not seen as pronounced anywhere else in the country.

    (Ya, me and @HCProf.....lucky us. Groans.)

    So, please share your thoughts. Do you find this kind of computer analysis to be a promising new crime fighting tool or a waste of time? If promising, can the police get any more from computer analysis than they already have? E.g., a time and place pattern so that a stake out might be worthwhile?

    Apparently this is cutting edge stuff, and the FBI is here with their cyber-experts as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Patterns persist in the unsolved murders of Cleveland women: Update | cleveland.com

    Apparently this is cutting edge stuff, and the FBI is here with their cyber-experts as well.
    Is there any word on where the bodies were being found?
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    Aren't there supposed to be 300 serial killers roaming the US at any given time, or is that an urban myth?
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    The latest PBS Nova is about statistical analysis.

    Oh, I believe it is a very useful tool in almost every aspect of life.

    Thx
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    Did anyone view the series Numbers when it was on? Don't know how much of it was bullshit but it sounded plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Patterns persist in the unsolved murders of Cleveland women: Update | cleveland.com

    The takeaway seems to be that Cleveland has had a huge increase in the percent of unsolved homicides where the known facts indicate a killer or killer might be responsible for some/many/most of these deaths. This pattern is not seen as pronounced anywhere else in the country.

    (Ya, me and @<a href="http://politicalhotwire.com/member.php?u=26350" target="_blank">HCProf</a>.....lucky us. Groans.)

    So, please share your thoughts. Do you find this kind of computer analysis to be a promising new crime fighting tool or a waste of time? If promising, can the police get any more from computer analysis than they already have? E.g., a time and place pattern so that a stake out might be worthwhile?

    Apparently this is cutting edge stuff, and the FBI is here with their cyber-experts as well.
    Computer analysis is great, when it works. But lets not forgot human analysis, especially by those with a very particular set of skills, skills they have acquired through evolution.. SUPER RECOGNIZERS!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_recogniser
    Super recognisers are people with significantly better-than-average face recognition ability. It is the extreme opposite of prosopagnosia. It is estimated that 1–2% of population are super recognisers who can remember 80% of faces they have seen. Normal people can only remember about 20% of faces. They have proved to be far superior to computer recognition systems. The science behind this is poorly understood but may be related to the fusiform face area part of the brain.

    In May 2015, the Metropolitan Police officially formed a team made up of people with a "superpower" for recognising people and put them to work identifying individuals whose faces are captured on CCTV. Scotland Yard has a squad of over 200 super recognisers.

    ..snip..

    Heres a fun video that explains some of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Is there any word on where the bodies were being found?
    Yes, there's a map. Look at the linked article; it's interactive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Aren't there supposed to be 300 serial killers roaming the US at any given time, or is that an urban myth?
    300?

    Could be, I suppose. 330 million people live here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    The latest PBS Nova is about statistical analysis.

    Oh, I believe it is a very useful tool in almost every aspect of life.

    Thx
    Okay, let's run that out. You surely know of the decades-long hunt for the Green River Killer, Gary Ridgeway.

    IYO, would this computer analysis being developed have caught him sooner?

    And if yes, then how? What data could the computer (along with CCTV, maybe?) have produced to lead to his arrest after his 9th murder, rather than his 90th?

    BTW, I certainly hope this works! The Cleveland killer is choosing older ladies, in my neighborhood, who are "respectable", aka not working as prostitutes.

    It's upsetting, and I'm shocked it's not now discussed in every local tv news broadcast.
    Last edited by Madeline; 8th March 2018 at 08:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    300?

    Could be, I suppose. 330 million people live here.
    So I googled! One scientist puts it at a thousand!

    How Many Serial Killers are in the United States? One Scientist Believes It Could Be Thousands
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