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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    I found this point particularly interesting. I see this all the time. People attempting to shame or cast you as less than them, less than a "normal" person.

    It certainly does feed itself.
    Yes, that point jumped out at me as well. Of course, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that "ordinary people, just like you and me, can engage in such antisocial behaviour. For a specific period of time, you can actually become a troll." As a wise man once said, it's much easier to see and complain about the mote in someone else's eye than it is to recognize and deal with the beam in your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    I found this point particularly interesting. I see this all the time. People attempting to shame or cast you as less than them, less than a "normal" person.

    It certainly does feed itself.
    On the other hand, many people reveal personality quirks that deserve to be shamed and ridiculed.
    Racism and Bigotry leap to mind but there are many others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    On the other hand, many people reveal personality quirks that deserve to be shamed and ridiculed.
    Racism and Bigotry leap to mind but there are many others.
    You're right. But... one problem is that too many people leap to shame and ridicule as their first and only response to arguments they find disagreeable or discomfiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I have found, however, that people are more willing to take that risk IRL as a result of the increased activity of engaging in riskless e-fights. I have had occasion to tell people IRL - just as I have here - that I am absolutely unimpressed by any other person's outrage. If anything, I am outraged at the excess of outrage we are all (in the aggregate) expressing, which I believe is used as an excuse to attack people we do not like rather than actually work together to solve problems.

    I haven't found this myself irl. I don't get called a nazi, white nationalist, or have people get aggressive with me because I don't go nuts on every stupid thing trump does. My wife says it's due to my slight cauliflower ear on one side.



    But you are right, people are so tribal these days, I don't believe they want problems solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    My wife says it's due to my slight cauliflower ear on one side.
    That is what you get for not ducking enough. <shudder>

    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    But you are right, people are so tribal these days, I don't believe they want problems solved.
    It is not so much a question of tribalism as ideologism. So many people believe (politically-speaking, not necessarily theologically-speaking, though of course there can be and is overlap) what they want to believe, and are more emotive than intellectual about it. If there was anything particularly admirable about the founders of the United States, it is that they placed reason above emotion when expounding upon their political philosophies and making decisions - even when they disagreed, vehement though they may have been in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That is what you get for not ducking enough. <shudder>


    It is not so much a question of tribalism as ideologism. So many people believe (politically-speaking, not necessarily theologically-speaking, though of course there can be and is overlap) what they want to believe, and are more emotive than intellectual about it. If there was anything particularly admirable about the founders of the United States, it is that they placed reason above emotion when expounding upon their political philosophies and making decisions - even when they disagreed, vehement though they may have been in the process.
    I think it's tribalism wrapped in ideologism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That is what you get for not ducking enough. <shudder>

    More pulling out of guillotines and other nonsense I should have tapped to over the years. lol

    It is not so much a question of tribalism as ideologism. So many people believe (politically-speaking, not necessarily theologically-speaking, though of course there can be and is overlap) what they want to believe, and are more emotive than intellectual about it. If there was anything particularly admirable about the founders of the United States, it is that they placed reason above emotion when expounding upon their political philosophies and making decisions - even when they disagreed, vehement though they may have been in the process.
    I use tribalism as a more colorful way to say ideolgism, however, most of these people aren't even ideologues but puppets repeating the position of fox or cnn as their own. nothing can change thier minds and they feel part of something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    Actually it's much simpler than that.


    You don't risk getting punched in the mouth when someone picks e-fights.
    Yep, that's pretty much what "little or no personal risk..." in the OP's article means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    More pulling out of guillotines and other nonsense I should have tapped to over the years. lol
    Yeah, still ... I kind of freaked out the first time I saw a cauliflower ear. Not visibly, but I was simultaneously repulsed and fascinating. Then I looked it up online...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    [M]ost of these people aren't even ideologues but puppets repeating the position of fox or cnn as their own.
    I do not buy the whole "media puppet" story ... just another conspiracy theory to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Yeah, still ... I kind of freaked out the first time I saw a cauliflower ear. Not visibly, but I was simultaneously repulsed and fascinating. Then I looked it up online...
    Mines small and not too bad, hardly noticable unless you are looking.

    I do not buy the whole "media puppet" story ... just another conspiracy theory to me.

    Not a conspiracy, but for example, black lives matter was based on a lie that the media sold "hands up don't shoot", so many people bought that narrative.


    People are easily swayed by the media, and the media acts with an agenda.
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