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    The Jewish view: Judaism 101: Life, Death and Mourning

    Closest to StanStill's position, though I would not of course phrase it that way.
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    I believe I read somewhere that our bodies are taking longer to rot because of the food preservatives that accumulate in our tissues.
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    What's so terrible about the idea of Soylent Green?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    What's so terrible about the idea of Soylent Green?
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    The concern is overblown. In ideal room-temperature conditions, Ebola can survive outside a living body for about 14 days - tops. The AIDS virus can survive for about six days. And in both cases, the viruses are greatly weakened long before they die.

    That all said, cremation is a much better idea. It does NOT create energy; in fact it requires a lot of energy to reduce 150 lbs of matter to ash - especially when it's 60% water. But the idea of paying for a plot of land and a headstone is folly IMO.
    A serious concern is become just the fact that so much land is basically made useless forever. Or at least till the day humanity rids itself of this stupid veneration of an inert lump of various chemicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    The concern is overblown. In ideal room-temperature conditions, Ebola can survive outside a living body for about 14 days - tops. The AIDS virus can survive for about six days. And in both cases, the viruses are greatly weakened long before they die.

    That all said, cremation is a much better idea. It does NOT create energy; in fact it requires a lot of energy to reduce 150 lbs of matter to ash - especially when it's 60% water. But the idea of paying for a plot of land and a headstone is folly IMO.
    I agree 100%. I attended a funeral recently where the whole thing was 23K. To me, that was like throwing money into the ground. Funeral homes and directors will often take advantage of people during their most vulnerable moments to make a sale. It happened to my Dad, we were quoted 19K and my Dad pulled out his checkbook. I asked for other options and cremation with a service, Urn, and use of of room for a 1 day wake was 4500.00. Cremation was never mentioned by the funeral director..simply because he couldn't sell a casket, vault, head stones, etc. It really wasn't the money but the fact my Dad will need that money later on.

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    I thought this was a cool idea.

    The Living Urn

    Each Living Urn bio urn and planting system comes with a special biodegradable urn, a premium tree seedling (or young tree) of your choice, RootProtect, our proprietary ash neutralizing agent, aged wood chips, and easy to follow planting instructions - all packaged in an attractive eco-friendly bamboo container! Keep your loved one's memory present in your life, give back to nature, and grow a living memory with The Living Urn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    The Jewish view: Judaism 101: Life, Death and Mourning

    Closest to StanStill's position, though I would not of course phrase it that way.
    I found this interesting:

    After a person dies, the eyes are closed, the body is laid on the floor and covered, and candles are lit next to the body. The body is never left alone until after burial, as a sign of respect. The people who sit with the dead body are called shomerim, from the root Shin-Mem-Reish, meaning "guards" or "keepers".

    This used to be huge when I was a child when the elders passed on. The family members would take turns sitting up with the deceased. Funeral homes will not really allow it, at least not in Kentucky, but most of my family, back then, was laid out at home or in their Church which was open all night to accommodate the "guards" My grandfather was laid out for an entire week at home which traumatized me big time as a kid because he started to "leak" and his shirt would saturate over night. The mortician had to stop by every day to correct the problem. It was awful. Our family does not do that anymore and moving toward cremation. I had thought the sitting with the deceased was a Christian thing but now I see where it came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    What's so terrible about the idea of Soylent Green?
    Human is not kosher food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    A serious concern is become just the fact that so much land is basically made useless forever. Or at least till the day humanity rids itself of this stupid veneration of an inert lump of various chemicals.
    It is not as though we already have no unused land left, though.

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