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    No, this will be my first Vonnegut.


    I have many of the original series on VHS; the first DS9 on VHS; a smattering of TNG episodes on VHS; the first two seasons of TNG on DVD; and several movies on VHS/DVD. I will eventually get rid of them, most likely, since all the episodes and occasionally some of the movies are available on Netflix (they sometimes change, and I haven't checked Prime YT yet ... may not keep YT).


    I have, though nowhere near all his work. At a minimum, I have read the original Foundation trilogy plus Foundation's Edge, Foundation and Earth and Prelude to Foundation; the four robot novels; all of the robot short stories that I know of; the Lucky Starr books; the three Galactic Empire novels; The End of Eternity; Nightfall (the novel with Robert Silverberg, not the original short story); and those are all I can think of for now.


    Never heard of him before just now. I haven't actually read anything new in quite a while. And I'm still waiting for David Gerrold to come out with the next Chtorr novel - yes, still waiting, 25 years after #4 came out. His (non-Star Trek) stuff is rather interesting, too.
    By the way, I noticed that you're a Harlan Ellison fan. Well, Harlan Ellison was a HUGE fan of Jack McDevitt; here is what he had to say about him: The question should be: 'Who among us is such a slow pony that s/he isn't reading McDevitt'"? - Harlan Ellison.

    Just as a FYI.....
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    My first exposure to Chalker was - still my favorite - the Four Lords of the Diamond books (really a four-novel single story - sort of). (Loaned to someone, never got it back, though she did the same with me, so we're even.) Main character is "copied" into four other bodies to infiltrate a series of worlds from which one cannot escape once you are there. That way the same agent carries out all four missions, and communicates with the "original" mostly via memory upload. The idea is to solve a single puzzle using the same guy. Quite the clever setup.


    Yes, that's a classic, IMO. There was also a Release 2.0 (I have read both, but only have the second one) that updated some of the technological stuff.


    (Yes, spelled correctly.) Definitely a good series, a combination of hard sci-fi as well as sociological and economic speculation into the relatively near future. Basically, instead of a classic alien invasion, it's an ecological infestation taking over Earth's ecology, essentially Chtorraforming Earth.

    Something else of Gerrold's you would have enjoyed was, in an issue of Starlog back around 1985 or so, he did a regular column, and one of them dealt solely with his limericks. The only one I remember, not exactly a limerick, he said "I knew I had gone off the deep end when I produced the following:"

    A king, who was mad at the time,
    Declared limerick writing a crime.
    But late in the night,
    all the poets would write
    verses without any rhyme or meter.


    I haven't read any Benford. Bear, yes ... I've read Eon (but not Eternity or the prequel Legacy), and the extended novel The Infinity Concerto and The Serpent Mage (also collected into a single volume - I have that as well as the individual novels). Looking at his website, I want to go back and read more of his stuff.
    Gregory Benford is an actual astrophysicist who works at the University of California-Irvine. The first novel I read by him was Timescape, and it blew me away. I still rank it as one of the top eight sci-fi novels I have ever read. Not exactly a time-TRAVEL novel, it is about a group of desperate scientists sending a MESSAGE into the past, to try to create an alternate time-line:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timescape
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    It's a shame we won't have the spacecraft to planet and galaxy hop in our life time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Gregory Benford is an actual astrophysicist who works at the University of California-Irvine. The first novel I read by him was Timescape, and it blew me away. I still rank it as one of the top eight sci-fi novels I have ever read. Not exactly a time-TRAVEL novel, it is about a group of desperate scientists sending a MESSAGE into the past, to try to create an alternate time-line:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timescape
    I have heard of Timescape, but never got around to reading it. Sounds like now I have to.

    Damn. I have this whole list of books to get at the used book store (which started with the stuff that I "lost" during my marriage), and the list just keeps getting longer ... I'm going to need to build another bookcase as it is, and don't have room for it (though I suppose I could get rid of something else...).

    BTW, are you familiar with Piers Anthony's Cluster trilogy? Have you read his Tarot perchance? (I think the latter was originally published as several books, but I have a large paperback version published as a single novel.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I have heard of Timescape, but never got around to reading it. Sounds like now I have to.

    Damn. I have this whole list of books to get at the used book store (which started with the stuff that I "lost" during my marriage), and the list just keeps getting longer ... I'm going to need to build another bookcase as it is, and don't have room for it (though I suppose I could get rid of something else...).

    BTW, are you familiar with Piers Anthony's Cluster trilogy? Have you read his Tarot perchance? (I think the latter was originally published as several books, but I have a large paperback version published as a single novel.)
    I have never read any Piers Anthony, thought he was more of a fantasy author than a sci-fi author. His Xanth series certainly looked to be more along fantasy lines, so I never tried it. I like the more SERIOUS fantasy works, mind you, like Tolkien and Donaldson's Thomas Covenant series and now George Martin's Game of Thrones saga; I just thought the Xanth series looked a bit more juvenile. I am definitely not familiar with his Cluster trilogy or Tarot. Oddly, his Wikipedia biography didn't even mention them, although they did mention his Xanth series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I have never read any Piers Anthony, thought he was more of a fantasy author than a sci-fi author. His Xanth series certainly looked to be more along fantasy lines, so I never tried it. I like the more SERIOUS fantasy works, mind you, like Tolkien and Donaldson's Thomas Covenant series and now George Martin's Game of Thrones saga; I just thought the Xanth series looked a bit more juvenile. I am definitely not familiar with his Cluster trilogy or Tarot. Oddly, his Wikipedia biography didn't even mention them, although they did mention his Xanth series.
    I'm currently on the third book of The Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. Pretty good read. I read several of the Xanth books when I was younger. They were ok. Also A fan of L.E. Modesitt's Recluse books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I have never read any Piers Anthony, thought he was more of a fantasy author than a sci-fi author. His Xanth series certainly looked to be more along fantasy lines, so I never tried it. I like the more SERIOUS fantasy works, mind you, like Tolkien and Donaldson's Thomas Covenant series and now George Martin's Game of Thrones saga; I just thought the Xanth series looked a bit more juvenile. I am definitely not familiar with his Cluster trilogy or Tarot. Oddly, his Wikipedia biography didn't even mention them, although they did mention his Xanth series.
    Anthony is more of a fantasy author, given his Xanth series - which is a bit more on the juvenile side, and a substantial reliance on puns. Definitely not the serious fantasy that Tolkien wrote, or even Bear's The Infinity Concerto/The Serpent Mage. (I'm just realizing how little fantasy I have on my shelf ... much more science fiction, including several series by E.E. "Doc" Smith I haven't gotten around to yet.) Cluster and Tarot are mentioned in a separate Wikipedia bibliography page from Anthony's main bio (the former is linked in the latter). Another Anthony series I enjoyed (more books for my library rebuild) is his Incarnations of Immortality - I've read 7 of the 8 books - book 8 did not exist when I read the first 7.

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    Am I missing something here? None of the stars are labeled! Where's Alpha Centauri? Where's Epsilon Eridani? Where's Tau Ceti? Where's Epsilon Indi? This just seems like a....psychedelic hippie VR 'experience' or something.
    Put on some Hawkwind, power up the Lava amp and quit yer bitchin', Old Man.

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