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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    The first face transplant in the U.S. was successfully performed here in Cleveland, and the patient required it following an attack by her longtime pet chimpanzee.

    I am not a huge fan of attempts at domesticating dangerous wild animals.
    This is the story about Travis...apparently he stole a set of car keys from the victim and was attacked. Travis was quite a handful.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_(chimpanzee)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Did you know that all dogs are descended from wolves, and did you know that wolves are considered by many people to be dangerous animals, and did you know that dogs are nowadays often called 'man's best friend'?
    Your point is.......?

    I think part of any healthy adult human's mental equipment is a strong sense of ethics about using animals.

    My ideas about this subject are maybe a little rigid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Did you know that all dogs are descended from wolves, and did you know that wolves are considered by many people to be dangerous animals, and did you know that dogs are nowadays often called 'man's best friend'?
    It took thousands of years of selective breeding to domesticate dogs.
    And wolves are still dangerous animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Video takes about a minute to load, by the way. Kind of annoying....
    I just got the video to load..you are right, this just drips with cuteness sauce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    It took thousands of years of selective breeding to domesticate dogs.
    And wolves are still dangerous animals.
    If I had property, I would love a hybrid wolf dog. They are beautiful. You can still see traits of the wolf in our domestic dogs. My dogs are very small, 10 and 13 pounds, but when I brush their teeth, they have the biggest fangs and scary looking teeth. Their teeth definitely does not match their appearance or size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Your point is.......?

    I think part of any healthy adult human's mental equipment is a strong sense of ethics about using animals.

    My ideas about this subject are maybe a little rigid.
    My POINT is this: that if we went by your criterion:

    I am not a huge fan of attempts at domesticating dangerous wild animals.

    We would NOT have domesticated dogs, nor would we have domesticated cattle----the ancestors of our domesticated cattle were dangerous animals, make no mistake----and we arguably would not have domesticated camels or horses or pigs. All of them had ancestors that were at least semi-dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    It took thousands of years of selective breeding to domesticate dogs.
    And wolves are still dangerous animals.
    Yes. And if we went by Madeline's criterion, I guess we would have never even made the attempt to domesticate dogs. Just too dangerous.

    In fact, wolves may have greatly assisted in the process of domesticating themselves, by hanging around our campfires. The original wolf-dogs probably formed a symbiotic relationship with the mammoth-hunters of the Eurasian steppes some 30,000 to 40,000 years ago. It wasn't as if our human ancestors one day got the bright idea of trying to domesticate wolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    My POINT is this: that if we went by your criterion:

    I am not a huge fan of attempts at domesticating dangerous wild animals.

    We would NOT have domesticated dogs, nor would we have domesticated cattle----the ancestors of our domesticated cattle were dangerous animals, make no mistake----and we arguably would not have domesticated camels or horses or pigs. All of them had ancestors that were at least semi-dangerous.
    And, by the way, horses can certainly still be dangerous. According to my well-annotated family tree, I had a great-great Uncle Amos who died instantly (or near-instantly) at the age of 67, when he was kicked in the groin by his plow-horse.

    Not a nice way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    If I had property, I would love a hybrid wolf dog. They are beautiful. You can still see traits of the wolf in our domestic dogs. My dogs are very small, 10 and 13 pounds, but when I brush their teeth, they have the biggest fangs and scary looking teeth. Their teeth definitely does not match their appearance or size.
    See, and I think breeding and owning such animals should be illegal.

    IDC what thrills getting up close and personal with lethal wild animals provides. Unless you live on an island that children never visit, I don't think this should be a legal choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    See, and I think breeding and owning such animals should be illegal.

    IDC what thrills getting up close and personal with lethal wild animals provides. Unless you live on an island that children never visit, I don't think this should be a legal choice.
    Did you know that the Russians have quite recently domesticated foxes, Madeline? You can now buy a very cute domesticated fox for somewhere in the range of $5000 to $9000, if you should so desire.

    Do you think the Russians were WRONG to do that?

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