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    Actor Stephan Fry tells sex abuse victims to "grow up"

    "Comedian and actor Stephen Fry was at it again this week, inciting plenty of social media outrage when he spoke to Dave Rubin about sensitivity and sexual abuse victims, reports The Telegraph. Criticizing those who avoid “trigger words,” Fry said, “There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape.”

    "They’re terrible things and they have to be thought about, clearly, but if you say you can’t watch this play, you can’t watch Titus Andronicus, or you can’t read it in an English class, or you can’t watch Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because uncle touched you in a nasty place, well I’m sorry,” Fry said."

    “It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place – you get some of my sympathy – but your self pity gets none of my sympathy,” he continued. “Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one’s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The irony is we’ll feel sorry for you, if you stop feeling sorry for yourself. Just grow up.”

    As a mental health advocate who suffers from depression and is also the president of mental health charity MIND, many were surprised by Fry’s comments, labelling them “hypocritical” and “dangerous.”

    ?Just grow up?: Stephen Fry tells sexual abuse victims to stop feeling sorry for themselves | National Post

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    My take-away - never mind Fry's obvious lack of diplomatic capability - is that the possibility that someone in a group suffered a trauma shouldn't spoil life for everyone else.
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    Actor Stephan Fry tells sex abuse victims to "grow up"
    this is the guys we have see whining and running away to other countries cos of the harsh words about his sexuality.. 'grow up' did not help him face up to the harshness in his life...

    'grow up' helps no one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    "Comedian and actor Stephen Fry was at it again this week, inciting plenty of social media outrage when he spoke to Dave Rubin about sensitivity and sexual abuse victims, reports The Telegraph. Criticizing those who avoid “trigger words,” Fry said, “There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape.”

    "They’re terrible things and they have to be thought about, clearly, but if you say you can’t watch this play, you can’t watch Titus Andronicus, or you can’t read it in an English class, or you can’t watch Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because uncle touched you in a nasty place, well I’m sorry,” Fry said."

    “It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place – you get some of my sympathy – but your self pity gets none of my sympathy,” he continued. “Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one’s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The irony is we’ll feel sorry for you, if you stop feeling sorry for yourself. Just grow up.”

    As a mental health advocate who suffers from depression and is also the president of mental health charity MIND, many were surprised by Fry’s comments, labelling them “hypocritical” and “dangerous.”

    ?Just grow up?: Stephen Fry tells sexual abuse victims to stop feeling sorry for themselves | National Post
    Sounds like he speaks as a disciple of the Old Vic; I am sure Olivier might have said the same thing, but alas, Fry isn't an authority on the human condition, is he?

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    Wait, what's his diagnosis again? I know he has one. Lemme look.

    Oh yes. Bipolar.

    Well, he should really just grow up.

    That'll help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Wait, what's his diagnosis again? I know he has one. Lemme look.

    Oh yes. Bipolar.

    Well, he should really just grow up.

    That'll help.
    Seems he was also sexually abused. Didn't know that.

    Stephen Fry opens up about school sexual assault · PinkNews

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Seems he was also sexually abused. Didn't know that.

    Stephen Fry opens up about school sexual assault · PinkNews
    Then he should know better.

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    It seriously takes a special kind of stupid to believe that sexual abuse or trauma will leave no impact on a life.

    We just do the best we can with the tools we have. Some people have no sources or resources. It's hardest on them.

    Further, recovery is difficult if not impossible if one is going to claim that there was no harm done.

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    Stephen Fry? You mean the guy who protested Russia's treatment of his fellow homosexuals? Maybe they should grow up too, then?
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