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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Do you think that's rare though? I mean there have been several prominent cases of female teachers going after young males (Mary Kay Letourneau) and it doesn't seem to have that same stigma. I think some dads would murder a male teacher for touching their daughters, but pat their son on the back if it were a young female teacher. There is a double standard for sure.
    It is a crime EXPLODING in number of victims because thus far, we cannot agree that boys deserve protection too.

    That has begun to change, but not enough. The criminal justice system puts our children at grave risk by winking at some predators.

    They only thing that ever stops a baby raper is fear of getting caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    Its unfortunate, but true. As smart as we think we are, too many of us have double standards to a certain degree.

    How many guys who are fathers joke by saying "Son go out and score. Daughter, do not meet anyone like your brother"
    I am thinking of all those songs like "Hot for Teacher" and what not that dealt with young boys and their interest in teachers. Quite a few songs out there like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Comment that a woman has a nice ass and some liberal hears it you will get sued for harassment.

    This is the world they are creating. You can't comment on anything.
    If women felt safe with men, they wouldn't have to be hypervigilant. As it is, we have learned that anything we do can be interpreted as an invitation.
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    This is a talk to text video I made some years ago, following an argument online over whether it was okay for women to use "nonladylike" images and speech in pursuing their political goals.

    I think it's funny...but it also illustrates the shaming women often engage in against one another which IMO, is also a type of sexist injury (sometimes).



    This is why I will not agree to strike "bitch" from our vocabulary. The ethnic slurs aside, I feel a snarling mouth is often a woman's best self-defense and I will not support an effort to silence such people unless they speak "like ladies".

    (There's never a need to use a religious or ethnic slur, period. Nobody is being insulted by the Entire Race of Puerto Ricans...just one jackass at a time. So call him a jackass.)

    I would not allow my kid out of the house to go to college until she had practiced shouting obscenities at me. Rising up on her hind legs was not natural for her. She had to practice.

    There should be a degree of ASSERTIVENESS in every kid as they leave home to start an independent, adult life. Asserting yourself against a violent man is a bit more of a stretch for our daughters than it is for our sons.

    The Etiquette Wars....Holy Toledo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    If women felt safe with men, they wouldn't have to be hypervigilant. As it is, we have learned that anything we do can be interpreted as an invitation.
    Yup. I am sick of being creeped out by men who think it's cool to make eye contact, smile and shout a greeting at me in parking garages, etc.

    Decent men do not amuse themselves by frightening old ladies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I am thinking of all those songs like "Hot for Teacher" and what not that dealt with young boys and their interest in teachers. Quite a few songs out there like that.
    First, these boys are not VOLUNTEERING to become prey for female baby rapers.

    Second, it is NORMAL for a teenager to develop a crush on an adult outside the family, as they sort out the emotions and behaviors that they will use as sexually active adults. It is on these adults not to prey on such feelings.

    The fact that we BLAME THE VICTIMS of female baby rapers makes me crazy. If we did this to the female victims of male baby rapers, you'd be just as angry as me.

    The gender of the victim and his sexual orientation do not change the impact of these crimes on our children. In fact, many baby rapers do not care....they simply choose the victims they feel they can most easily access or as to whom they will be punished the least, if caught.

    Baby rapers are not like you and I, bajisima. They are not gay or straight.....that's a separate and entirely deviant sexual orientation.

    Sadly, I would guess that about half the time a man moves in with a woman who has kids, he is sexually interested in the kids -- not in her. This avenue to access victims is rarely open to female baby rapers.

    Female baby rapers are not teachers who "fell in love" with a child. They are baby rapers who correctly identified teaching as their best chance for unsupervised access to our sons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Ya. That most likely was deliberate. It is a complex subject because...lots of reasons...it is sexist of a woman to move into a man's personal space like that without his consent.
    The difference is the unspoken threat of violence. In general, I don't think many men fear that they could be physically overwhelmed by a women, and their bodies violated in the most intimate way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    You don't like cat calls? I like them more and more the older I get!
    No, although I haven't heard one for decades. This refers to the type of conduct that inspired Thelma and Louise to blow up a truck:



    It's EXACTLY the same behavior European women complain about from recent immigrants who are fundamentalist Muslims. It's a gang of men, surrounding a woman and saying horrible things so as to make her fear she's about to be raped.

    This has more or less disappeared in the US because a city whose workers engaged in this kind of street harassment would be sued into bankruptcy today.

    Ladies like me and Isalexi fought that war for you younger ladies. You can say thank you anytime now.

    Have you seen "Suffragette"? All of us owes a debt to our mothers and grandmothers, basijima, and we all tend to think what they did was easy.

    HA! It was NOT EASY!

    Can I get an Amen, Isalexi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    Interesting... I don't think about gay folks much, but it's true that for average guys if you have a gay man harassing you, it's going to be unappreciated. I was thinking to say that it would be more often similar to a man harassing a woman... but even then, there are big differences. I think the man will be less hurt and more angry, more likely to directly and aggressively act. Where as a woman may be more likely to bottle it up and suffer. Of course every person and every case is unique.
    That's the Third Rail of gender politics...violent lesbians. There are some butch types who think it is cool to imitate the very WORST qualities any man ever exhibitted. You see glimmers of this occasionally in moves about women behind bars, but IRL, they more often target men.

    MEAN as a snake. Doubtless there a few serial murderers like this.

    Aileen Wornous, for one......


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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I am thinking of all those songs like "Hot for Teacher" and what not that dealt with young boys and their interest in teachers. Quite a few songs out there like that.
    I remember having a pretty, young, just out of collage, teacher in high school. The boys gave her a bad time making her cry more than once.

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