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    I have a biography on Fatty Arbuckle and the origin of the Hayes Code. It's a fascinating part of film history.

    Thanks for the Louise Brooks recommendation!
    And do you know they paid William Hays more than $100,000 a year for his part?

    He was a Postmaster General, and at the time the moguls figured it was better if they set up their own censor than have the govt do it.

    Also, at the time each state had their own censorship standards which made it almost impossible to get a film to conform to all of them.

    One of the first to get around the system was DeMille... he said "If they want sermons I'll give it to them!" and started his Biblical epochs, complete with all the associated sin and debauchery...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    And then the Black Dahlia, and then the death of Superman.

    Not many people suicide by gun and the bullets that were not fired end up beneath the victim's prone body.
    Linda Darnell, who burned to death in an apartment fire, sweet, innocent Gail Russell who died young as an alcoholic, William Holden who died from hitting his head on an end table while drunk, Mabel Normand, Fatty Arbuckle's comedic partner who also died young from drinking.

    John Gilbert... Greta Garbo's screen partner who drank himself to death after the talkies ruined his career...

    I think I've seen all of these...



    I guess it's the "transitions" that I am most interested in, the rags to riches, the time they got their first break... and then, for some what ended their career and where they wound up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    Linda Darnell, who burned to death in an apartment fire, sweet, innocent Gail Russell who died young as an alcoholic, William Holden who died from hitting his head on an end table while drunk, Mabel Normand, Fatty Arbuckle's comedic partner who also died young from drinking.

    John Gilbert... Greta Garbo's screen partner who drank himself to death after the talkies ruined his career...

    I think I've seen all of these...



    I guess it's the "transitions" that I am most interested in, the rags to riches, the time they got their first break... and then, for some what ended their career and where they wound up.

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    The bombshells are also interesting. I would love to read a feminist biography of Marilyn Monroe.
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    So I guess he's guilty then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparta View Post
    So I guess he's guilty then...
    Well, not much is at stake in this thread. He's dead and I doubt Hendren wants to sue.

    But yeah.....her account has the ring of truth to my ears.

    Hitchcock's daughter Patty is still alive. If Hendren libeled Hitchcock, she can sue Hendren and her publisher.


    Not something rational people usually do to promote a lie.
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    With so many tragedies, there are some great stories too.

    Harold Lloyd... at his peak he was getting $1.5 million a picture, this in pictures that had a 1.7 million dollar budget... so that's 1.5 for Harold, .2 for everything else.

    Colleen Moore, she was sent to a voice coach when the talkies came in, the voice coach asked: "Do they really pay you $10,000 a week?"

    "Oh no mame, it's $12,500 a week."

    She went on to become one of the original investors, a partner in Merrill-Lynch and died very wealthy in 1988.

    When Charlie Chaplin pulled up in the mornings to the studio he built, the workman used to shout "He's here!"

    Randolph Scott invested in real estate and oil and was worth about $50 million in the 1950s... he could have bought and sold the moguls he worked for several times over.

    (He and Cary Grant were roommates for a time and also live-in lovers.)



    One of my favorite stories is about Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda.

    They were roommates in the late 1920s, trying to get on Broadway, they were living on rice at the time.

    Hank gets invited to a fancy artist's exhibition, they have a big plate of finger sandwiches...

    Hank's thinking "I could eat some of them, but then I'd have to go back and tell Jimmy I had sandwiches while he only had rice for supper..." "I could pocket a few... but I can't bring myself to steal from these nice people..."

    So good guy that he was, he went hungry instead...

    They were lifelong best buddies.

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    Hedy Lamar, most beautiful actress of all time IMO, invented the radar which serves as the basis for Wi-Fi today.

    Gave it to the U.S. government for free to support the war effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Hedy Lamar, most beautiful actress of all time IMO, invented the radar which serves as the basis for Wi-Fi today.

    Gave it to the U.S. government for free to support the war effort.
    Yes, I have heard from more than one source that she was the most beautiful women ever.

    It was said that when she entered a room, no matter who was there, glamor queens, jewel encrusted royalty, no matter who, all eyes were transfixed on her.





    I loved her in "Comrade X"

    I think that movie also has one of my favorite supporting actors: Felix Bressart.

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    When Alan Ladd was very young, as a child just starting out in plays he was friends with Anthony Caruso and was invited by Anthony's father to go to lunch... but young Alan was very poor and said he couldn't afford it.

    The father said "Oh that's okay, come along, it's my treat..."

    And Alan never forgot, for years after he would insist on Caruso being in his pictures and used to casually toss a few parts from scripts on the table before him and say "Pick a part..."



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    Here's a good story about Louise Brooks that's not in the documentary...

    When she was a Ziegfeld girl, of course she dated a lot of different men and so many of them had made quick money in the stock market that they could throw it around like confetti and did.

    So, she tells her current "boyfriend" that she wanted a full-length mink coat, as they were going out dancing the next evening.

    The boyfriend brings a mink coat alright, but it is a "halter-length" and not the full-length as she requested.

    They get to the dance and right away Louise takes the coat, twirls it around in the air and says "Whoever wants this coat can have it!" and threw it into the middle of the dance floor.

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