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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    Here's a good story about Louise Brooks that's not in the documentary...

    When she was a Ziegfeld girl, of course she dated a lot of different men and so many of them had made quick money in the stock market that they could throw it around like confetti and did.

    So, she tells her current "boyfriend" that she wanted a full-length mink coat, as they were going out dancing the next evening.

    The boyfriend brings a mink coat alright, but it is a "halter-length" and not the full-length as she requested.

    They get to the dance and right away Louise takes the coat, twirls it around in the air and says "Whoever wants this coat can have it!" and threw it into the middle of the dance floor.

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    Can you watch silent movies? I think I've seen maybe two.

    It's just too melodramatic for my taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Can you watch silent movies? I think I've seen maybe two.

    It's just too melodramatic for my taste.
    Well, just like today, you had low budget and higher budget...



    Douglas Fairbanks was the "Jackie Chan" of his time, he could do his stunts with grace and style, made it look easy. But each of those sets were specifically designed to his proportions which helped a great deal.

    One has to be able to put it in perspective, the movies were only about 20 years old when Douglas Fairbanks made "The Thief of Bagdad," and they were of course limited by the technology available at the time.

    Those are still some of the largest sets ever built.^

    They had to go to elaborate means to get what they wanted, and didn't spare any expense doing so.

    Watch the first few minutes of this documentary and you will see that what we might think of as a silent movie: action sped up, flickering screen, tinkling piano was certainly not the standard...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS37kyfnGy4

    And the silent movies were not actually silent, they often had full orchestras doing the music, and you might see them in a huge "picture palace," these aspects contributing to the overall "experience."

    Many consider silent movies a distinct art form from the talkies, it takes some patience and an open mind, but I do see what they mean, they had a very high form of pantomime art, something they forgot when they started the talkies, in many ways they were back to square one.

    I would take many silent films over the just plain "misery" and garbage films they put out today.

    All that technology they have nowadays, many times squandered with bad writing, directing and acting.

    Also, look at the screen credits at the end of a movie today... they have hundreds, maybe a thousand working on a film, in the silent era it might be as few as a dozen.

    And look how many "remakes" they put out nowadays.. remakes have always been a part of the movies, but for awhile it seemed they couldn't come up with an original script.

    90% of all the silent movies are gone forever, they either rotted in the can when the few copies they saved for posterity were stored or all the prints were liquidated for their silver content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Tippi Hedren, star of "The Birds" and "Marnie" has released her autobiography titled "Tippi: A Memoir" that paints a very dark portrait of one of America's most beloved film directors.



    Tippi Hedren accuses Hitchcock of sexual harassment in memoir | Dhaka Tribune

    This makes me feel so sad. I had heard before that Hitchcock was abusive to Hedren while making the birds, and that she had to be hospitalized after the worst scene.



    I have loved Hitchcock's films all my life,a nd can probably recite most of them by heart. I am unsure what to feel about them now. He's dead, beyond my power to exact justice.

    But I think, sadly, they are tainted for me now just as anything by Woody Allen or Roman Polanski is tainted.

    What say you? Incidents of sexual harassment this severe, which can never result in any justice, do they impact your entertainment consuming habits?
    I think you should just enjoy what is in front of you, such as a movie. If we considered all of the stuff that goes on around these things, we would enjoy nothing. The music industry is the same way, lots of incidences of sexism and harassment surrounds this industry, but we still enjoy music. BTW...The Birds traumatized me when I was a kid. It is the only scary movie that I remember vividly today...I still get nervous around birds. LOL
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    If Alfred Hitchcock threw himself on Tippi, she wouldn't be alive to write a book.
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    Mike Todd was a wealthy businessman and movie producer and was married to Elizabeth Taylor... she said he was "the love of her life."

    One day he comes home and says that he lost some money gambling, he says "I didn't just lose a little money on a three legged race horse, I lost the whole track!"

    He bet the racetrack at Del Mar in a card game and lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight View Post
    If Alfred Hitchcock threw himself on Tippi, she wouldn't be alive to write a book.
    That's what they actually said about Roscoe Arbuckle.. that he threw himself onto Virginia Rappe with his great weight, raping her and bursting her bladder.

    She did die from a ruptured bladder and subsequent blood poisoning, but it was from infection, peritonitis.

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