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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    I think it's a power thing more than being attracted to children. It's a total abuse of power and children are vulnerable prey.

    It's definitely not 25% of men of would do something like that. That is completey wrong in my opinion, but the people who are capable of that will seek out positions where they can exploit their prey.

    1/4 of men are not attracted to children, not even 10%. But, it's not about that. It's about attaining power.
    I can't begin to understand it, except as a particularly nasty sort of sexual sadism. These people cannot get off unless in doing so, they damage a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I can't begin to understand it, except as a particularly nasty sort of sexual sadism. These people cannot get off unless in doing so, they damage a child.
    Well, it might not even be sexually driven. Power is arousing too. And children are easy prey.

    The sadism might come into play if they get off on destroying the victim's innocence. That could be another factor.

    This is a very dark topic, and I don't really like talking or thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    A couple of thoughts that you are free to disagree with.

    1. This is why many conservatives are against these bathroom laws being passed. It goes directly to your second point of access. It has nothing to do with the LBGT community but the fact that a pedophile will use this law to their advantage.

    2. A second thought is that this is why a woman is more suited to be a stay at home mother then a man of the house. A man being alone with say his daughter, even if he never abuses her, will have a large amount of access to her young friends possibly opening up that opportunity for a man who otherwise would never do this.

    3. I also agree that the human race, and individuals especially, will revert to a lower self of being if not held in check by society. Most people are evil, selfish, and tend to the lowest common denominator if given the chance.
    I disagree with each of your points.

    First, my entire point is, no adult is per se safe. Stay at home dads should not be any more suspicious than stay at home moms. It is vital to teach bodily integrity and assertiveness to every child, as to every adult, and to believe every complaint at least to the point of inquiring.

    Second, no, the bathroom bill has no bearing on this. Transitory contact with a stranger in a public bathroom is not the type of risk I was referring to. Kids should be taught to cope with stranger danger in any event, and if not, should not enter public bathrooms alone.

    Lastly, no, I don't believe that most people will sexually abuse a child if they think they will not be detected. Protecting kids is a normal part of adulthood. Probably genetic. Abusing them is almost as deviant as cannibalism. I doubt many humans outside prison have ever felt an impulse towards either, but when they do, they can be relentless in gratifying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    Well, it might not even be sexually driven. Power is arousing too. And children are easy prey.

    The sadism might come into play if they get off on destroying the victim's innocence. That could be another factor.

    This is a very dark topic, and I don't really like talking or thinking about it.
    None of us does, but it's our reluctance to confront this crime that creates the conditions in which it occurs.

    IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    None of us does, but it's our reluctance to confront this crime that creates the conditions in which it occurs.

    IMO.
    You're probably right.

    I don't have any kids, but if I ever decide to have them and they were abused, I honestly don't know what I would do. I've always had a temper, but I've learned to control it as I got older. But with this, I'm scared of what I would do to my kids abusers. There would be so much rage, shame, guilt... I'd feel like I let them down, I didn't protect them.

    And what about the children? Imagine all the emotions they would be feeling. Confused, violated, used, maybe guilt too. How can they ever trust an authority figure again, let alone another man?

    It's not the physical abuse that destroys the child to the same degree the mental abuse does. It lingers for a lifetime. So sad. Many victims never report their abuse because of the mental destruction inflicted on them. A lot of the times it's family memebrs doing it too, and makes it even more complicated to turn them in. And even if they their parents or family members go into denial mode and cover it up.

    FUBAR
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    I fear the whole sexual thing is, in humans, disastrously mixed up with status and power. I begin to feel, more and more, that the sooner we create our successor-species and take a collective overdose, the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    You're probably right.

    I don't have any kids, but if I ever decide to have them and they were abused, I honestly don't know what I would do. I've always had a temper, but I've learned to control it as I got older. But with this, I'm scared of what I would do to my kids abusers. There would be so much rage, shame, guilt... I'd feel like I let them down, I didn't protect them.

    And what about the children? Imagine all the emotions they would be feeling. Confused, violated, used, maybe guilt too. How can they ever trust an authority figure again, let alone another man?

    It's not the physical abuse that destroys the child to the same degree the mental abuse does. It lingers for a lifetime. So sad. Many victims never report their abuse because of the mental destruction inflicted on them. A lot of the times it's family memebrs doing it too, and makes it even more complicated to turn them in. And even if they their parents or family members go into denial mode and cover it up.

    FUBAR
    You are correct. My daughter was raped at 15 and a virgin and there was a lot of damage. Luckily it was a good therapist and support group
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    You are correct. My daughter was raped at 15 and a virgin and there was a lot of damage. Luckily it was a good therapist and support group
    I'm sorry to hear that. That had to have been so maddening for you, can't imagine.

    Support groups are great for trauma victims, it let's them know they aren't alone and they can see other victims that have learned to cope in healthy ways and lead happy, successful lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    You are correct. My daughter was raped at 15 and a virgin and there was a lot of damage. Luckily it was a good therapist and support group
    OMG, that's horrible. I am so sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Respectfully, I think your percentage estimate is wildly out of line with reality. How did you come to such a range? I would think that if the numbers of child abusers were this high, virtually everyone would have at some time been a victim, many being victim to multiple abusers. There are many more adults than there are children.

    It's an awful tragedy when it happens, but I think you are seeing it bigger that it really is.
    I watched a film called Split last night. It was very well done and in part broached this subject of child abuse. I won't say much more about the plot so I don't spoil the film for those who might wish to see it but I highly recommend it.
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